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Update in German:
<A HREF="http://www.tomshardware.de/cpu/20050603/index.html" target="_new">http://www.tomshardware.de/cpu/20050603/index.html</A>

Here is a quick translation:

*) gigabyte SLI board was unstable, NB overheated; a beta bios was applied, system died, even the dual bios feature didn't save it.

*) motherboard was replaced with Epox EP-5NVA+SLI. Turned on, and something smelt burnt, system shut down while still in bios. Diagnosys: burnt voltage regulators. Epox board explicitelly states compatibility with Pentium D > 3 GHz

*) switched moterboard again to Asus P5ND2-SLI. Worked for a single night, then died as well LOL. They gave up on nForce4

*) Decided to use intel Intel 955X despite these boards not being available in the shops. Problem: SLI doesnt work on these boards, so they decide to restart everything with just one videocard, also the AMD system that has been running flawlessly since boot up.

*) first D955XBK supplied by intel doesnt work with the 840EE (no reference to what is the problem).

*) second intel supplied D955XBK board refuses to work with 840EE

*) switched Asus P5WD2 Premium which did work

This is where the article stops, it is dated yesterday. This morning we have seen the intel system has been rebooted several times, and apparently they swapped out the PSU as well. THis is getting hilarious ! 6 motherboards and its still unstable and running around 85°C ROFL. Indeed porky, 840EE is a great choice for businesses since the fan rotates at less than 5000rpm !

What a sad show by intel...<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by P4man on 06/08/05 08:48 AM.</EM></FONT></P>
 
>Whats more sad is you beleive this changes anything industry
>wise.

Are you saying these problems will never get sorted out then ? That would indeed be even more sad !

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
I wonder if its too early for such a test. The board manufactorers havnt had time for some proper R&D.

O i think this fansink business is a lost cause. These should be supplied with a water cooling solution

Skidd
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P4 LGA775 2.8ghz
Gigabyte 915G Chipset
1GB Samsung DDR400
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
 
yeah clearly the Pentium D was rushed to market to win some PR points in being first to ship desktop dual core. We've seen that before with the 1.13 P3 what happens when intel rushes to counter AMD. Lots of PR points, but on the negative.

That doesn't mean it was too early to test though, but clearly, its way too early to *sell* those products. I wonder if another recall is in the make ? One, *maybe* two failing motherboards I could believe to be random, early BIOS or whatever, but SIX from 4 or 5 different manufacturers (including intel) and with different chipsets ? Nope, seems like an issue with the cpu itselve. My guess is the TDP is way too conservative.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
hmmm, yeah sounds like a problem, think they will recall them and have them redisgned or scrap them for the new one thats sopposed to be coming?

Skidd
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P4 LGA775 2.8ghz
Gigabyte 915G Chipset
1GB Samsung DDR400
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
 
Redesign from scrap ? That would be a good idea, a typical CPU design cycle is roughly 4 or 5 years 😀

I don't know if a recall is in order, its a bit early. AFAIK, THG tested only one cpu, I'm not ruling out they got a bad one. Or fried it with the Epox board. Apparently they also swapped PSU's, its not entirely impossible either, in spite of the 850W spec and healty voltages, that the PSU is faulty.

But if neither of that cures it, I don't know. maybe they will just up the TDP, making most/all available motherboards incompatible ? Time will tell.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
and even if they go to a higher TDP why would us end users use it anyways. I for one dont want to have specialised power just for a computer. not to mension the cooling part.

Skidd
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P4 LGA775 2.8ghz
Gigabyte 915G Chipset
1GB Samsung DDR400
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
 
Dell is selling P4 dual core systems, so saying "too early" is bullshit.
Intel and Dell believes it's fine and tandy, so let's make assumptions from that.
Which is: Intel is incompetent ! :lol:

btw. I would LOVE to see if some one makes this test using Dell dc system. It would crash like any other P4 dual core will.
 
Dell isn't selling them yet AFAIK. Maybe we now we know why.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
True, but the fact still remains. Intel has made a stuff up here. Cut the loss and go where they know they can win as a gambler would say.

And that lies on the path of the Dothan

Skidd
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P4 LGA775 2.8ghz
Gigabyte 915G Chipset
1GB Samsung DDR400
Nvidia Geforce 6600GT
 
Didn't spacedonkey had a dual core EE Dell?

If there is a possibility of several things going wrong, the one thath will go wrong first will be the one that will do the most possible damage
 
If he is real. And I think he claimed it was a prepoduction model. Either way, go to Dell site, you can't order the Gen 5. Its advertised, but you can only buy Gen 4s. Gen 5 (dual core) is only expected by august I read elsewhere.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
COULD HAVE

whoever said dell isnt selling them may not be correct, I just built and custom listed one on the dell.ca website and went through the processing and stopped before payment to see if it said not available yet, and never gave me such a warning
 
<A HREF="http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/promo/Intel/Intel6605/landing.html" target="_new">http://images10.newegg.com/UploadFilesForNewegg/promo/Intel/Intel6605/landing.html</A>

I was able to add all to my cart and checkout.

Uh oh some people are gonna get pwned
 
Roger. Liquidpaper reports the same thing, I thought they wherent available yet, but it seems they are. Curious what fan they ship with, maybe intel will be forced to recall the HSF if nothing else.

= The views stated herein are my personal views, and not necessarily the views of my wife. =
 
Either way, go to Dell site, you can't order the Gen 5. Its advertised, but you can only buy Gen 4s. Gen 5 (dual core) is only expected by august I read elsewhere.
Click to expand...

it was before the THG test, but they decided to sell it only after the summer, because they are not sure anymore it will be stable this summer!!

But anyway, it is clearly a product rushed to the market, just as the 1.13 P3. The single core P4 is picky about cooling, so I cannot expect a dual core EE being stable when pushed to the max.

As for the mainboard, I will try to have some info about if the manufacturers get some sample or specs detail for the EE or only standard dual core.

If they rushed the the 840EE to the maket to have something competitive enough, then that might explain why motherboard are failling badly.

I dont think nvidia is at fault here, as they claim. It is not nvidia that design mainboard. The chipset works, but badly implemented mobo make it fail maby.


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