Question Stuttering / micro-stuttering across all games with Ryzen 5600X and RTX 3070 ?

[nerdx]

Sorry if this is the incorrect section.


I have recently swapped out my cpu and gpu which prior were the same to newer hardware which is the same,

And i have been noticing these stutters in games.

It happens alot during the start of games / rounds and for some games sticks throughout the entire session.

I have 32GB running at 3133Mhz for debugging purposes as 3200Mhz yields the same stuttering effect. I have XMP enabled.

Stuttering Footage on heaven benchmark

Any suggestions / help would be appreciated.

I have already tried using driver uninstallers like fully uninstalling and reinstalling,

I have tried changing the ram speed as I previously mentioned. This was not happening on the old hardware.

 

[Ralston18]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Forego any third party driver installers or tools.

Manually download drivers directly from the applicable manufacturer's website. Reinstall and reconfigure as applicable.

 

[nerdx]

Update your post to include full system hardware specs and OS information.

Include PSU: make, model, wattage, age, condition (original to build, new, refurbished, used)?

Disk drives: make, model, capacity, how full?

Forego any third party driver installers or tools.

Manually download drivers directly from the applicable manufacturer's website. Reinstall and reconfigure as applicable.

Updated,

I believe my Power Supply is HCG650 Gold ATX 12V 2.4 Antec

I used DDU to uninstalled nvidia drivers

 

[Ralston18]

You (not DDU) should uninstall and reinstall Nvidia drivers.

Try using Nvidia's uninstallers.

Also, what is D: drive used for?

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My general rule of thumb is that any drive should not be filled beyond 80% of capacity. And (full disclosure) there are varying opinions about that.

Is there anything on D: drive that can be deleted? Temporary files for example?

By any chance did you move the system's Page File (virtual memory)?

 

[nerdx]

You (not DDU) should uninstall and reinstall Nvidia drivers.

Try using Nvidia's uninstallers.

Also, what is D: drive used for?

= = = =

My general rule of thumb is that any drive should not be filled beyond 80% of capacity. And (full disclosure) there are varying opinions about that.

Is there anything on D: drive that can be deleted? Temporary files for example?

By any chance did you move the system's Page File (virtual memory)?

D drive is used for games and software files like photoshop premiere and the occasional game.


I will also try to reinstall manually.

and i am not sure of i moved the systems page file, or vram i wouldn't even know how to check. I have done some tinkering with system files for improvement of life stuff but i know they aren't the cause.

 

[Ralston18]

Regarding : "I have done some tinkering with system files for improvement of life stuff but i know they aren't the cause."

What sort of tinkering and where did you find the information directing or otherwise sponsoring such tinkering?

Were there specifc problems or reasons?

System files should, overall, be left alone barring some specific problem and some specific fix for that problem. And the solution should be from a vetted source.

The stuttering may be the result of some conflict that was introduced by the tinkering. All too much misinformation out on the internet when it comes to tinkering - especially in the gaming community.

No registry editing - correct?

Try running "dism" and "sfc /scannow" to repair possibly damaged or corrupted files.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-dism-command-line-utility-repair-windows-10-image

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-sfc-scannow-to-repair-windows-system-files-2626161

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To find the Pagefile:

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/d...ometimes referred to,, typically the C: drive.

= = = =

IP Address

Noted that you redacted the IP address in the System Spec. Most likely that IP address is in one of the three private IP address ranges and used by thousands of computers. It is your public IP address (via ISP) that should not be revealed.

For more information regarding IP addressing:

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-an... types of IP addresses,are assigned by an ISP.

I am only pointing that out because sometimes the private IP address itself can provide a clue of some sort. E.g., not being as expected with respect to the network as a whole.

 

[nerdx]

Regarding : "I have done some tinkering with system files for improvement of life stuff but i know they aren't the cause."

What sort of tinkering and where did you find the information directing or otherwise sponsoring such tinkering?

Were there specifc problems or reasons?

System files should, overall, be left alone barring some specific problem and some specific fix for that problem. And the solution should be from a vetted source.

The stuttering may be the result of some conflict that was introduced by the tinkering. All too much misinformation out on the internet when it comes to tinkering - especially in the gaming community.

No registry editing - correct?

Try running "dism" and "sfc /scannow" to repair possibly damaged or corrupted files.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-dism-command-line-utility-repair-windows-10-image

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-sfc-scannow-to-repair-windows-system-files-2626161

= = = =

To find the Pagefile:

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/pagefile#:~:text=The pagefile (sometimes referred to,, typically the C: drive.

= = = =

IP Address

Noted that you redacted the IP address in the System Spec. Most likely that IP address is in one of the three private IP address ranges and used by thousands of computers. It is your public IP address (via ISP) that should not be revealed.

For more information regarding IP addressing:

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-an-ip-address-2625920#:~:text=These types of IP addresses,are assigned by an ISP.

I am only pointing that out because sometimes the private IP address itself can provide a clue of some sort. E.g., not being as expected with respect to the network as a whole.

The tinkering i was doing was related to my devices HWID’s as i had issues with games just not working, so i manually changed it.

I had a problem a long time ago which was my PC randomly black screen restarting which was fixed by removing the cpu and motherboard and we found out it was the motherboard that was faulty.

i didn’t edit the registry no

i will try the other things you listed in 10 mins just need to turn pc on.


(EDIT)

I cannot find the system page file anywhere I looked in all of my drives with hidden items on and i can't find it. I looked in the root of all the drives and nothing is there.

I checked advanced system settings and it says managed by system so like automatically.

 

[nerdx]

Regarding : "I have done some tinkering with system files for improvement of life stuff but i know they aren't the cause."

What sort of tinkering and where did you find the information directing or otherwise sponsoring such tinkering?

Were there specifc problems or reasons?

System files should, overall, be left alone barring some specific problem and some specific fix for that problem. And the solution should be from a vetted source.

The stuttering may be the result of some conflict that was introduced by the tinkering. All too much misinformation out on the internet when it comes to tinkering - especially in the gaming community.

No registry editing - correct?

Try running "dism" and "sfc /scannow" to repair possibly damaged or corrupted files.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-use-dism-command-line-utility-repair-windows-10-image

https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-use-sfc-scannow-to-repair-windows-system-files-2626161

= = = =

To find the Pagefile:

https://www.techtarget.com/whatis/definition/pagefile#:~:text=The pagefile (sometimes referred to,, typically the C: drive.

= = = =

IP Address

Noted that you redacted the IP address in the System Spec. Most likely that IP address is in one of the three private IP address ranges and used by thousands of computers. It is your public IP address (via ISP) that should not be revealed.

For more information regarding IP addressing:

https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-an-ip-address-2625920#:~:text=These types of IP addresses,are assigned by an ISP.

I am only pointing that out because sometimes the private IP address itself can provide a clue of some sort. E.g., not being as expected with respect to the network as a whole.

So I was testing R6 at my normal settings (low and stretched resolution)
and i still got a minor stutter but its smoother, but then i got this weird stutter which i've never got before.

stutter here

 

[Ralston18]

Refer to the following links to delve deeper:

https://www.pdq.com/blog/why-is-my-pagefile-sys-so-huge/

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/t...ent/performance/introduction-to-the-page-file

Simply to just discover where the pagefile is located.

 

[nerdx]

Refer to the following links to delve deeper:

https://www.pdq.com/blog/why-is-my-pagefile-sys-so-huge/

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/t...ent/performance/introduction-to-the-page-file

Simply to just discover where the pagefile is located.

The page file is still in the C Drive

 

[Ralston18]

Okay - pagefile.sys seems settled.....

Found.

But do verify that Windows is managing the pagefile.

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Referencing Post #5

Next take a look at D: drive. Almost completely filled (games - correct)? At 92.6% full....

E: drive likely problematic as well.

For the most part drives should not, in my mind, go beyond 80% full. However, that % limit is subject to some fair discussions....

You can use Resource Monitor to observe system performance.

Start with the Overview tab to get a sense of how Resource Monitor works and the information being presented.

Then use the Disk Tab to observe what the disks do (or do not do) when stuttering occurs.

Play the game that seems to cause the most stuttering. It may take a bit for the graphs to "catch up".

Key is being able to find some pattern in what you do that causes stuttering along with a corresponding change in Resource Monitor.

May not be the disks: could be some other resource.

No need to rush throught it all. Take your time and be methodical.

 

[Roland Of Gilead]

Sorry if this is the incorrect section.


I have recently swapped out my cpu and gpu which prior were the same to newer hardware which is the same,

And i have been noticing these stutters in games.

It happens alot during the start of games / rounds and for some games sticks throughout the entire session.

I have 32GB running at 3133Mhz for debugging purposes as 3200Mhz yields the same stuttering effect. I have XMP enabled.

Stuttering Footage on heaven benchmark

Any suggestions / help would be appreciated.

I have already tried using driver uninstallers like fully uninstalling and reinstalling,

I have tried changing the ram speed as I previously mentioned. This was not happening on the old hardware.

Hey there,

BIOS info is missing. What bios are you running? You can check this with CPU-z on the mainboard tab. It's worth keeping up to date on Ryzen systems. There is a known stuttering bug with some earlier revisions.

 

[nerdx]

Okay - pagefile.sys seems settled.....

Found.

But do verify that Windows is managing the pagefile.

= = = =

Referencing Post #5

Next take a look at D: drive. Almost completely filled (games - correct)? At 92.6% full....

E: drive likely problematic as well.

For the most part drives should not, in my mind, go beyond 80% full. However, that % limit is subject to some fair discussions....

You can use Resource Monitor to observe system performance.

Start with the Overview tab to get a sense of how Resource Monitor works and the information being presented.

Then use the Disk Tab to observe what the disks do (or do not do) when stuttering occurs.

Play the game that seems to cause the most stuttering. It may take a bit for the graphs to "catch up".

Key is being able to find some pattern in what you do that causes stuttering along with a corresponding change in Resource Monitor.

May not be the disks: could be some other resource.

No need to rush throught it all. Take your time and be methodical.

Yes my D Drive is majority games its where most of my steam games are

E Drive is also majority games

I will play games with resource monitor open and see what is happening whilst stutters occur. and I will report back here.


This looks rather suspicious.

I will try run dead by daylight as that has the most active stutters. I will let you know thank you.

 

[nerdx]

Hey there,

BIOS info is missing. What bios are you running? You can check this with CPU-z on the mainboard tab. It's worth keeping up to date on Ryzen systems. There is a known stuttering bug with some earlier revisions.

 

[nerdx]

Okay - pagefile.sys seems settled.....

Found.

But do verify that Windows is managing the pagefile.

= = = =

Referencing Post #5

Next take a look at D: drive. Almost completely filled (games - correct)? At 92.6% full....

E: drive likely problematic as well.

For the most part drives should not, in my mind, go beyond 80% full. However, that % limit is subject to some fair discussions....

You can use Resource Monitor to observe system performance.

Start with the Overview tab to get a sense of how Resource Monitor works and the information being presented.

Then use the Disk Tab to observe what the disks do (or do not do) when stuttering occurs.

Play the game that seems to cause the most stuttering. It may take a bit for the graphs to "catch up".

Key is being able to find some pattern in what you do that causes stuttering along with a corresponding change in Resource Monitor.

May not be the disks: could be some other resource.

No need to rush throught it all. Take your time and be methodical.

So on dead by daylight the stutters are really bad at the start whenever i am turning around but as the game goes on it gets alot better with barely any

The graph on the D Drive was very square and random it also had spikes when the game stuttered same with the other drives the only ones that were a ctively doing things were the first 3.

The spikes were virtually the same on all 3.

I'd like to mention I ran 3DMark Spy and there was litterally no stutters that I could see.

 

[Ralston18]

Did you note all of the Chrome related activity?

Is that much Chrome activity expected with respect to the host computer?

And again, with D: drive being almost full, any processes accessing D: are likely to encounter problems finding space or continguous space.

Disable Chrome. Determine if doing so changes anything.

 

[nerdx]

Did you note all of the Chrome related activity?

Is that much Chrome activity expected with respect to the host computer?

And again, with D: drive being almost full, any processes accessing D: are likely to encounter problems finding space or continguous space.

Disable Chrome. Determine if doing so changes anything.

i will do this tomorrow and let you know, i do have a lot of chrome extensions.

 

[nerdx]

Did you note all of the Chrome related activity?

Is that much Chrome activity expected with respect to the host computer?

And again, with D: drive being almost full, any processes accessing D: are likely to encounter problems finding space or continguous space.

Disable Chrome. Determine if doing so changes anything.

so i suspended chrome and on dead by daylight I got no stutters.

None at the start of the game nor throughout.

I am yet to try R6 but that is a good sign right?

 

[Ralston18]

Good sign - yes.

However, the root problem may be some combination of things.

So continue testing and trying until you can start or stop stuttering by actions that you take.

Be methodical, keep notes, and look for patterns.

Use the tools.

 

[nerdx]

Good sign - yes.

However, the root problem may be some combination of things.

So continue testing and trying until you can start or stop stuttering by actions that you take.

Be methodical, keep notes, and look for patterns.

Use the tools.

okay thank you i will keep taking notes.