Question Substantially decrease your Windows 10 boot time speed

jon96789

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Go to Control Panel, Power Options, Choose what the power buttons do, Change plan settings that are currently unavailable and enable Turn on fast startup (recommended) if it is disabled.

It dropped my boot time from 55 seconds to 25 on my M.2 NVMe SSD.
 

USAFRet

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And fast startup can make troubleshooting a pain later on.

25 seconds on your NVMe drive? That's not great.
My SATA III SSD system boots up in about 30 seconds, without fast startup on.

Lastly, 'boot time' is the least metric to worry about. 20 sec, 30 sec, 60 sec....no big deal, unless you're looking for bragging rights.
 
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Before the Windows 10 1909 update, the boot time was about 30 seconds, after the update, the boot time was over a minute... I just wanted to get it back up to speed...
 

jon96789

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You are right... Using the quick boot lost connections to my network drives on startup... I had to revert to normal boot to regain access to them... I guess I just have to live with the slow boot...
 

Colif

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Fast startup plays havoc with drivers not written for the new power mode used by fast startup.

What are specs of the PC? Its likely you need to update some motherboard drivers to get your speed down to a reasonable time.

Fast startup only helps hdd, anyone with ssd or faster should see no benefit from it as their devices are so fast they can load the drivers almost as fast as having them in ram at startup (which is what fast startup does - shutdown doesn't turn PC off, it just puts it to hibernate mode, so when you start up again, copies of the drivers that were running at shutdown are already in ram).

I normally have it off, it means if I have to unplug PC after shutdown, I don't run risk of corrupting boot files.
 

jon96789

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System Specs:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
Motherboard: ASUS X570 ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
GPU: MSi NVidia GeForce RTX2070 Gaming Z 8 GB RAM
Memory: 4x 8GB Corsair LPX Vengeance 3000 MHz DDR DIMMs
Hard Drive: 1TB Samsung 970 EVO Plus M.2 NVMe
CPU Cooler: Corsair H115i RGB Platinum Pro mounted on top
Case: Corsair 750D Full Tower with two intake fans in front and one exhaust fan on rear
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray writer
Power Supply: Corsair CX850M
OS: Windows 10 Professional Build 1903 18362.535)*

*My mistake, the update that was installed a couple of weeks ago was an update to 1903... That one took a long time, about 40 minutes to install... When I just checked for updates, the OS stated the version I have is the most current...
 

Colif

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Did you install Asus AI Suite as it includes a function called ez update that I think can update drivers for board... i know it updates bios versions. Its under utilities here - https://www.asus.com/Motherboards/ROG-Crosshair-VIII-Hero/HelpDesk_Download/

if you don't want to install AI suite, can you run driverview for me - all it does is shows what drivers are currently running - http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/driverview.html
If you run it, can you go into view and set it to hide all Microsoft drivers, that will reduce list size
can you take a screenshot from (and including) driver name up until (and including) creation date. Upload screenshot to an image sharing website and show link here.

I will check what you have installed against Asus website and suggest a few updates.

I have the same build number as you do and yet I have 1909 installed. The last patch I got just before 1909 took about same length of time as you mention.
 

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Here is a list...
amdgpio2.sys
128​
System DriverAMD GPIO Controller Driver2.2.0.121Advanced Micro Devices, IncAMD GPIO Controller Driver
AMDPCIDev.sys
117​
System DriverAMD PCI Device driver1.0.0.74Advanced Micro DevicesAMD PCI Device driver
amdpsp.sys
52​
Dynamic Link Libraryamdpsp sys4.11.0.0Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. amdpsp sys
AMDRyzenMasterDriver.sys
178​
System DriverAMD Ryzen Master Service Driver1.4.0.0Advanced Micro DevicesAMD Ryzen Master Service Driver
AnyDVD.sys
120​
Installable DriverAnyDVD Filter Driver8.3.4.0RedFoxAnyDVD
AscFileFilter.sys
204​
System DriverAscFileFilter13.0.7.15IObitAdvanced SystemCare
AscRegistryFilter.sys
205​
System DriverAscRegistryFilter13.0.7.15IObitAdvanced SystemCare
BHDrvx64.sys
105​
System DriverBASH Driver12.0.2.10Symantec CorporationBASH
ccSetx64.sys
67​
ApplicationCommon Client Settings Driver17.2.2.11Symantec CorporationSymantec Security Technologies
CorsairLLAccess64.sys
179​
System DriverCorsair LL Access1.0.16.0Corsair Memory, Inc.Corsair LL Access
CorsairVBusDriver.sys
137​
System DriverCorsair virtual bus driver3.0.87.0CorsairCorsair virtual device driver
CorsairVHidDriver.sys
200​
System DriverCorsair virtual device driver3.0.87.0CorsairCorsair virtual device driver
cpuz145_x64.sys
197​
Unknown
cpuz148_x64.sys
195​
Unknown
dump_dumpfve.sys
157​
Unknown
dump_dumpstorport.sys
155​
Unknown
dump_stornvme.sys
156​
Unknown
e1i65x64.sys
116​
Network DriverIntel(R) Gigabit Adapter NDIS 6.x driver12.17.10.8Intel CorporationIntel(R) Gigabit Adapter
eeCtrl64.sys
101​
ApplicationSymantec Eraser Control Driver119.1.0.89Symantec CorporationERASER ENGINE
ElbyCDIO.sys
100​
Display DriverElbyCD Windows x64 I/O driver6.1.3.0Elaborate Bytes AGCDRTools
ene.sys
99​
Unknown
EraserUtilRebootDrv.sys
102​
ApplicationSymantec Eraser Utility Driver119.1.0.89Symantec CorporationERASER ENGINE
HWiNFO64A.SYS
199​
System DriverHWiNFO AMD64 Kernel Driver10.38.0.0REALiX(tm)HWiNFO AMD64 Kernel Driver
IDSvia64.sys
97​
UnknownIDS Core Driver17.2.0.341Symantec CorporationSymantec Intrusion Detection
Ironx64.SYS
70​
ApplicationIron Driver9.1.0.17Symantec CorporationIron
Monitor_win10_x64.sys
198​
Dynamic Link LibraryIObit Temperature Monitor1.2.0.11IObitAdvanced SystemCare
nvhda64v.sys
145​
Sound DriverNVIDIA HDMI Audio Driver1.3.38.21NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA HDMI Audio Driver
nvlddmkm.sys
121​
Display DriverNVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 441.4126.21.14.4141NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 441.41
nvvad64v.sys
132​
Sound DriverNVIDIA Virtual Audio Driver4.13.0.0NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA Virtual Audio Driver
nvvhci.sys
134​
System DriverVirtual USB Host Controller driver303.0.0.0NVIDIA CorporationVirtual USB Host Controller driver
PxHlpa64.sys
46​
Dynamic Link LibraryPx Engine Device Driver for 64-bit (x86-64) Windows3.1.1.0Corel CorporationPxHlpa64
rt640x64.sys
115​
Network DriverRealtek 8125/8136/8168/8169 NDIS 6.40 64-bit Driver9.1.409.2015RealtekRealtek 8125/8136/8168/8169 PCI/PCIe Adapters
SRTSP64.SYS
202​
DriverSymantec AutoProtect15.7.9.15Symantec CorporationAutoProtect
SRTSPX64.SYS
93​
DriverSymantec AutoProtect15.7.9.15Symantec CorporationAutoProtect
SYMEFASI64.SYS
56​
DriverSymantec Extended File Attributes7.3.2.2Symantec CorporationEFA
SYMEVENT64x86.SYS
71​
ApplicationSymantec Event Library14.0.7.71Symantec CorporationSYMEVENT
SymEvnt.sys
203​
Dynamic Link LibrarySymantec Eventing Platform1.5.1.20Symantec CorporationSymantec Eventing Platform
symnets.sys
92​
UnknownNetwork Security Driver17.0.2.2Symantec CorporationSymantec Security Drivers
tap0901.sys
108​
Network DriverTAP-Windows Virtual Network Driver (NDIS 6.0)9.0.0.21The OpenVPN ProjectTAP-Windows Virtual Network Driver (NDIS 6.0)
UcmCxUcsiNvppc.sys
126​
Dynamic Link LibraryNVIDIA PPC Function Driver.1.38.831.832NVIDIA CorporationNVPPC
 

jon96789

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The BIOS and chipset drivers are current... Installed the Samsung driver... No change in boot time... The BIOS splash screen takes 20 seconds before the Windows spinning circle appears. The SSD boot time is 40 seconds.

Before the last update, the SSD boot time was about 15 seconds...
 

NightHawkRMX

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Just to share my results.

Ryzen 5 2600 @4.2
MSI B350 Gaming Plus UEFI v7A34vMF
Newer Kingston A400 SATA SSD.
Newer Windows 10 install with latest chipset drivers and plenty of programs and games installed.

From power button pressed to login screen is about 16-17 seconds. Another 2 seconds from login to desktop.
Fast boot is enabled.

25 seconds is pretty poor for a 1tb 970 on a moder high end system all things concidered.
 

jon96789

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Fast boot is enabled in the m/b BIOS... The BIOS still takes 15-20 seconds before the OS starts loading... Another 40 seconds for the OS load... I do not understand why the last Windows update mucked everything up... The Windows load is now triple the time before the update...
 

Colif

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I did ask for creation dates as well, makes identifying old drivers much easier. also didn't expect you to copy in as a table

The BIOS splash screen takes 20 seconds before the Windows spinning circle appears.
not sure a clean install will fix it if the most time lost is before windows shows up

is the blue ray drive internal? in case? i assume from case its internal... just thought if external might be cause of slowdown at startup. 20 seconds before flash screen makes me think bios is waiting for something to answer.

Anything show on the Q code led at boot? its on the motherboard , here is your manual- https://dlcdnets.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/SocketAM4/ROG_CROSSHAIR_VIII_HERO/E15379_ROG_CROSSHAIR_VIII_HERO_UM_WEB.pdf

What is boot order in bios?


odd this shows as a display driver -
ElbyCDIO.sys100Display DriverElbyCD Windows x64 I/O driver6.1.3.0Elaborate Bytes AGCDRTools
 

jon96789

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Blu-Ray drive is internal... Boot order is:
  1. USB
  2. Blu-Ray
  3. SSD
i will have to get back to you about the diagnostic LEDs...

Here's the list again...

Driver NameFile TypeDescriptionversionCompanyProduct NameModified DateCreated Date
amdgpio2.sysSystem DriverAMD GPIO Controller Driver2.2.0.121Advanced Micro Devices, IncAMD GPIO Controller Driver
10/1/2019 8:34​
4/17/2019 8:35​
AMDPCIDev.sysSystem DriverAMD PCI Device driver1.0.0.74Advanced Micro DevicesAMD PCI Device driver
9/16/2019 16:47​
6/16/2019 19:00​
amdpsp.sysDynamic Link Libraryamdpsp sys4.11.0.0Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. amdpsp sys
6/26/2019 22:44​
6/26/2019 22:44​
AMDRyzenMasterDriver.sysSystem DriverAMD Ryzen Master Service Driver1.4.0.0Advanced Micro DevicesAMD Ryzen Master Service Driver
7/29/2019 9:36​
7/29/2019 9:36​
AnyDVD.sysInstallable DriverAnyDVD Filter Driver8.3.4.0RedFoxAnyDVD
1/27/2019 23:11​
1/27/2019 23:11​
AscFileFilter.sysSystem DriverAscFileFilter13.0.7.15IObitAdvanced SystemCare
7/15/2019 19:33​
12/17/2019 5:27​
AscRegistryFilter.sysSystem DriverAscRegistryFilter13.0.7.15IObitAdvanced SystemCare
7/15/2019 19:33​
12/17/2019 5:27​
BHDrvx64.sysSystem DriverBASH Driver12.0.2.10Symantec CorporationBASH
10/2/2019 11:21​
12/19/2019 9:07​
ccSetx64.sysApplicationCommon Client Settings Driver17.2.2.11Symantec CorporationSymantec Security Technologies
11/15/2019 18:31​
12/8/2019 14:10​
CorsairLLAccess64.sysSystem DriverCorsair LL Access1.0.16.0Corsair Memory, Inc.Corsair LL Access
9/6/2019 11:26​
9/6/2019 11:26​
CorsairVBusDriver.sysSystem DriverCorsair virtual bus driver3.0.87.0CorsairCorsair virtual device driver
6/25/2019 11:31​
6/25/2019 11:31​
CorsairVHidDriver.sysSystem DriverCorsair virtual device driver3.0.87.0CorsairCorsair virtual device driver
6/25/2019 11:31​
6/25/2019 11:31​
cpuz145_x64.sysUnknownN/AN/A
cpuz148_x64.sysUnknownN/AN/A
dump_diskdump.sysUnknownN/AN/A
dump_dumpfve.sysUnknownN/AN/A
dump_secnvme.sysUnknownN/AN/A
e1i65x64.sysNetwork DriverIntel(R) Gigabit Adapter NDIS 6.x driver12.17.10.8Intel CorporationIntel(R) Gigabit Adapter
3/18/2019 18:43​
3/18/2019 18:43​
eeCtrl64.sysApplicationSymantec Eraser Control Driver119.1.0.89Symantec CorporationERASER ENGINE
10/9/2019 5:15​
8/15/2019 20:08​
ElbyCDIO.sysDisplay DriverElbyCD Windows x64 I/O driver6.1.3.0Elaborate Bytes AGCDRTools
5/14/2017 6:29​
5/14/2017 6:29​
ene.sysUnknown
5/22/2019 6:44​
9/2/2019 0:29​
EraserUtilRebootDrv.sysApplicationSymantec Eraser Utility Driver119.1.0.89Symantec CorporationERASER ENGINE
10/9/2019 8:32​
8/15/2019 20:15​
HWiNFO64A.SYSSystem DriverHWiNFO AMD64 Kernel Driver10.38.0.0REALiX(tm)HWiNFO AMD64 Kernel Driver
12/22/2019 16:41​
12/22/2019 16:41​
IDSvia64.sysUnknownIDS Core Driver17.2.0.341Symantec CorporationSymantec Intrusion Detection
8/15/2019 7:38​
12/20/2019 7:54​
Ironx64.SYSApplicationIron Driver9.1.0.17Symantec CorporationIron
11/15/2019 18:34​
12/8/2019 14:10​
Monitor_win10_x64.sysDynamic Link LibraryIObit Temperature Monitor1.2.0.11IObitAdvanced SystemCare
7/4/2018 23:25​
12/17/2019 5:27​
nvhda64v.sysSound DriverNVIDIA HDMI Audio Driver1.3.38.21NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA HDMI Audio Driver
11/20/2019 14:56​
8/15/2019 22:34​
nvlddmkm.sysDisplay DriverNVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 441.4126.21.14.4141NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA Windows Kernel Mode Driver, Version 441.41
12/3/2019 10:34​
12/6/2019 19:57​
nvvad64v.sysSound DriverNVIDIA Virtual Audio Driver4.13.0.0NVIDIA CorporationNVIDIA Virtual Audio Driver
4/16/2019 21:42​
8/15/2019 23:55​
nvvhci.sysSystem DriverVirtual USB Host Controller driver303.0.0.0NVIDIA CorporationVirtual USB Host Controller driver
4/16/2019 18:44​
8/15/2019 23:55​
PxHlpa64.sysDynamic Link LibraryPx Engine Device Driver for 64-bit (x86-64) Windows3.1.1.0Corel CorporationPxHlpa64
9/3/2013 0:01​
8/15/2019 20:27​
rt640x64.sysNetwork DriverRealtek 8125/8136/8168/8169 NDIS 6.40 64-bit Driver9.1.409.2015RealtekRealtek 8125/8136/8168/8169 PCI/PCIe Adapters
3/18/2019 18:43​
3/18/2019 18:43​
secnvme.sysSystem DriverSamsung NVM Express Storport Miniport Driver3.0.0.1802Samsung Electronics Co., LtdSamsung NVM Express Controller
2/13/2018 19:13​
2/13/2018 19:13​
SRTSP64.SYSDriverSymantec AutoProtect15.7.9.15Symantec CorporationAutoProtect
11/15/2019 18:29​
12/8/2019 14:10​
SRTSPX64.SYSDriverSymantec AutoProtect15.7.9.15Symantec CorporationAutoProtect
11/15/2019 18:29​
12/8/2019 14:10​
SYMEFASI64.SYSDriverSymantec Extended File Attributes7.3.2.2Symantec CorporationEFA
11/15/2019 18:40​
12/8/2019 14:10​
SYMEVENT64x86.SYSApplicationSymantec Event Library14.0.7.71Symantec CorporationSYMEVENT
8/15/2019 20:06​
8/15/2019 20:06​
SymEvnt.sysDynamic Link LibrarySymantec Eventing Platform1.5.1.20Symantec CorporationSymantec Eventing Platform
11/23/2019 7:02​
8/15/2019 20:06​
symnets.sysUnknownNetwork Security Driver17.0.2.2Symantec CorporationSymantec Security Drivers
11/15/2019 18:42​
12/8/2019 14:10​
tap0901.sysNetwork DriverTAP-Windows Virtual Network Driver (NDIS 6.0)9.0.0.21The OpenVPN ProjectTAP-Windows Virtual Network Driver (NDIS 6.0)
4/21/2016 22:10​
8/16/2019 8:01​
UcmCxUcsiNvppc.sysDynamic Link LibraryNVIDIA PPC Function Driver.1.38.831.832NVIDIA CorporationNVPPC
11/20/2019 14:56​
12/6/2019 19:57​
uimbus.sysUnknownUniversal Image Mounter0.6.0.0Paragon Software GmbHParagon System Utilities
9/12/2017 16:29​
9/12/2017 16:29​
uimdevim.sysUnknownUniversal Image Mounter0.6.0.0Paragon Software GmbHParagon System Utilities
9/12/2017 16:29​
9/12/2017 16:29​
 

Colif

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put ssd as 1st in boot order, it might be waiting on USB or the Blu ray drive before it boots.

I don't suppose you have any USB or DVD's in the devices?

might want to try unpluging the blu ray drive and see if boot times change.
 

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Boot codes:
14 - Pre-memory CPU initialization
15 - Pre-memory system agent initialization
C8 - unknown
33 - CPU post-memory initialization
61 - NVRAM Initialization
39 - Post-memory system agent starting
98 - console input device connecting
64 - CPU DXE Initialization starting
98 - console input device connecting
A2 - IDE Device detect
02 - AP initialization before microcode loading
 

Colif

Win 10 Master
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does it show as C8 or just 8 as I can find tons of posts about code 8 errors and Crossfire boards. For example:

Qcode 8 is a problematic code in so much as it's not documented. It is however quite common and many have found it to be a Memory issue. Your Qcode sequence seems to indicate this.
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?109300-Asus-Rog-Crosshair-vii-wifi-Qcode-8-error

wonder how you set bios up to be in verbose mode at startup as then we could see which of that stages it sat on the longest.
 

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It's definitely C8...

I just checked the BIOS and the only boot option is Windows Boot Manager which shows the Samsung SSD...

I think my boot order was from the old MSi board...
 

Colif

Win 10 Master
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it still looks like it could be a ram issue. increasing voltage to ram might help. For example

Every time I try to overclock the RAM to its advertised speed (3000MHz), the board's Q-Code display shows the code "C8", which doesn't exist in my model's Manual... Then goes on to display "Memory Settings reset because of failure to boot".
link

most cases PC won't even boot so you one up on them.

This might not help, I was just curious
C8 - OEM BDS initialization codes - https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?3018-Maximus-Debug-LED-Codes
BDS = Boot device selection - https://ami.com/en/tech-blog/acronym-soup-what-is-bds/
 

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Still haven't figured it out... The RAM has been configured in the BIOS to 3000 MHz.

Question... I do have a number of devices connected to the SATA ports...

This is how it appears in Disk Management:
Disk 0: WD 6TB drive
Disk 1: Samsung QVO 2 TB SATA SSD
Disk 2: WD 6 TB drive
Disk 3: WD 6 TB drive
Disk 4: Toshiba 5 TB drive
Disk 5: Samsung one TB NVMe SSD
Disk 6: LG Blu-Ray drive

Disk 0, 2 & 3 (the three WD Drives) are spanned as one 18TB Drive
Disk 5 is the boot C: Drive

The Samsung NVMe boot drive was installed by itself first and for some reason, it always shows up as the last drive in disk management as I kept adding drives to the system. Another odd bit. The Samsung appears in disk management as 530 MB Healthy (OEM Partition), 100 MB Healthy (EFI System Partition) and as Drive C: 930GB NTFS (healthy, boot and page file)

Would the drive order or the number of drives have an affect on boot times?
 

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