Suggestion for a new graphic card

psharat10

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suggest me a good graphic card alongwith a suitable psu...........my budget is around Rs.9000-10000. i would be using it mostly for gaming purpose with a resolution of (1400*900).......i would be buying it from CTC hyderabad this december which as far as i know is a place where u can get these components in a very cheap price......


my preferences are.......


1.ATI RADEON HD 7770 + Corsair VS450 450 Watts PSU
or
2.ATI RADEON HD 7750
or
3.ATI RADEON HD 6770
or
4.ATI RADEON HD 5770


well these are my choices......but pls i would be buying it only with ur necessary suggestions........also list some famous brands for the above mentioned graphic cards......besides the details of my system is listed below........


CORE I3 @ 2.93GHZ
4GB DDR3 RAM
500GB SEAGATE HARDISK
SAMSUNG SYNCMASTER B2030 MONITOR 21''
NVIDIA GEFORCE 9400GT 1GB(my current gpu which i want to upgrade)
IBALL PSU LPE223-400(250)
ASUS P7H55-M LX MOBO


apart from these details i also have some questions regarding this matter........


1.will the psu and the above mentioned graphic cards fit in my cabinet IBALL I612..?

2.what is the power consumption of these cards at FULL LOAD..?

3.which of these cards needs PCIE-6pin connector...?

4.is it possible to play modern games at high settings with either of these cards..?

5.is CORSAIR a good psu manufacturer....and will it be able to handle the graphic cards listed above without any problem....?

6.will a card having a PCIE-3.0 standard run on PCIE-2.0..?



thanking u & hoping for a prompt reply........
 

psharat10

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thnkx jsrudd but any more suggestions about another graphic cards apart from these at same price.........
and can u pls clarify the above questions with detailed answers.......
 
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go for door #1!

1.will the psu and the above mentioned graphic cards fit in my cabinet IBALL I612..?

yes, cases and PSUs are standard sized unless you are looking or a HTC build.

2.what is the power consumption of these cards at FULL LOAD..?

you're making do some homework here . .
5770 - 112 watts 6770 - 95 watts 7770 - 83 watts 7750 - 45 watts

3.which of these cards needs PCIE-6pin connector...?

all but the 7750

4.is it possible to play modern games at high settings with either of these cards..?

at your resolution of 1400x900 most have a fair chance with the 7770 leading the pack

5.is CORSAIR a good psu manufacturer....and will it be able to handle the graphic cards listed above without any problem....?

corsair has an excellent reputation and will handle all the cards.

6 .will a card having a PCIE-3.0 standard run on PCIE-2.0..?

yes.
PCI Express 3.0
PCI Express 3.0 Base specification revision 3.0 was made available in November 2010, after multiple delays. In August 2007, PCI-SIG announced that PCI Express 3.0 would carry a bit rate of 8 gigatransfers per second (GT/s), and that it would be backward compatible with existing PCIe implementations.

this seems to be the question of the day, fourth time i am answering it.


for the price/performance there is nothing in the market that compares to the 7770. you will be very please with the money spent, including for a PSU for the peace of mind.
 

psharat10

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thnk looniam for such a grt answer....wt abt my budget an hd 7770 + CORSAIR 450W psu....can i get it at Rs.9000......coz their online prices are pretty high around Rs.11000.(source:FLIPKART).....and iam going to CTC for the first time....i actually don't have much information abt their prices at hyderabad.......wt do u think looniam....?
 
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prices for a corsair CX450:
Price: 2295
http://www.theitdepot.com/details-Corsair+Builder+Series+VS450+450W+High+Performance+Power+Supply+(CMPSU-450VS)_C14P15861.html
Price: 2,450.00
http://www.theitwares.com/corsair-vs450-450w-builder-series-power-supply-p-2528.html?

unfortunately i could find a card within the budget. i'll post some links of what ones i saw and let you see:
http://www.theitdepot.com/products-Graphic+Cards_C45.html
http://www.theitwares.com/graphic-cards-c-101_36_68.html?sort=4a&page=1&range=3&min=5000&max=10000
http://techshop.in/store/index.php?cPath=320_4
http://mdcomputers.in/index.php?route=product/category&path=74_86&sort=p.price&order=ASC&page=3

looks like most of those prices are better than flipkart.
 

psharat10

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i think that i will get both these components around Rs.10000.......wt do u think looniam?....besides the street price varies a little than that which is stated online......
 
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along with the CX 450 a 7770 is best and 7750 would next. try to avoid getting a 6770 or 5770. those are not as good as 7750.

the 77xx cards are so much better than anything before them.
 

psharat10

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thnx prototype18 and looniam.....i will go to CTC this december and would be buying.....either hd 7770 or hd 7750(according to my budget).......with a corsair psu.......besides there is no other consequences in my rig right.......? and is my system 'OK' for this upgrade......?
 
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yes your rig is good for that. i hope you find a good deal for a 7770 but a 7750 will do ok for 1400x900. you may not play all games at the highest settings but you will be happy with the money you spend.


i wish you well :)
 

psharat10

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thnks looniam.....i hope that i will find a good deal in buying 7770 otherwise i will go with hd 7750......well if corsair is not available what other psu's can i look for coolermaster,antec or seasonic.....well seasonic is very much costlier than the other two...can u suggest which one is the best apart from corsair......coz in here the dealer mainly focuses on coolermaster psu's coz it's pretty cheap than other psu's....but i know that it's quality is not good as corsair,antec,seasonic or any other leading psu manufacturers.......so wt is ur suggestion regarding this......?
 

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you need not worry about the coolermaster PSU. 450W is sufficient to handle a 7770. If its a 7750, thn its even good for you. Anyway i think there will be a 1/2 years warranty along with it.... :)
 
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i believe in your country that most coolermasters that are available are the extreme power plus and most all of those are horrible:
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-400-W-Power-Supply-Review/957/9
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-460-W-RS-460-PMSR-A3-Power-Supply-Review/550/10
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-500-W-Power-Supply-Review/728/10
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-550-W-Power-Supply-Review/969/9
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Cooler-Master-eXtreme-Power-Plus-600-W-Power-Supply-Review/1034+


now if you are faced with a difficult choice, you could get by with a 350 watt PSU. if you do that you will need to use a 6 pin power adapter if you get a 7770. make sure you get a corsair, antec or seasonic and that it has 22+ amps on the 12 volt rail and using the adapter will not be a problem.

beware that will limit what you can upgrade to or doing any overclocking in the future! but that will be better than getting a higher wattage PSU that could fail with what you are using now.
 

psharat10

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u are right looniam.....personally i also think that coolermaster is not a good psu than others....i will try to buy corsair if it's available otherwise seasonic or antec......besides the psu i am having right now is having 17A in it's 12v rail so is that enough to power the hd 7750........?
 
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a 17 amp 12 volt rail is very low.

17*12= 204 watts and to keep it no more than 80% load 204*0.8 = 163.2 watts

a 7750 is ~45 watts and your CPU will use up to 73 watts for 118. then each stick of RAM will use 4-5 watts, a hard drive 10 watts spinning up with 5 watts read/write and the H55 chipset 6 watts.

so out of the 45 available your system will use 31 of that - 14 watts is very very close. not even enough for a light bulb.

technically it can be done but i wouldn't do it myself.
 

psharat10

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ok.....i will buy a new psu..thnks looniam.....but what's ur opinion abt hd 7750.....how well it can handle modern games.........will it be able to handle all the games with decent settings......without any lag or stuttering.....?
 
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yes, you will be ok with a 7750 at your resolution. i cannot tell you that it will never lag or stutter but i doubt it will have any problems unless you try to play metro 2033 at highest settings.

but that game kills every card.
 

psharat10

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ok thnks looniam........metro 2033 is definitely one of the most demanding game for any card.......due to it's enhanced hardware tessellation and graphics....wt abt other games like skyrim,amazing spiderman and battlefield 3....will it be able to handle these without any problem.......?
 
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it wiil be fine. here is a review of the 12.11 drivers and the 7750 is benchmarked with a few of the games you mentioned, it looks like at your resolution it will get ~45-50 fps.
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Catalyst_12.11_Performance/
 

psharat10

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thnks looniam........hope hd 7750 will survive for the next few years as there are big titles coming up later in next year...like watch dogs,crysis 3,and even the most awaited game of the year will be available for pc i.e GTA5(not officialy confirmed).......hope this card will handle these at decent frame rates without any issues unless these games are optimized perfectly......
 

psharat10

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well i bought both the hd 7770 and corsair vs450w psu(80% efficiency).....but nw the problem is that the psu's fan is not working when i switch on my system....it's not spinning even a bit.....is it thermally controlled or do i have a faulty psu?......if it is then i am in a big problem coz i have to send it back to hyderabad......and i don't know when it will be replaced.......although i have a 3yr warranty on it.....but still it's a huge problem for me......