Summer arrived,so did the BSODs,please help !

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I am 99% sure that my bsods are caused by a component overheating,and I suspect the HDD.It happened the past 2 summers and now this one.Note that my PC runs smoothly without a single BSoD for like 10 months every year,but when the weather gets hotter and thus room temperature increases I can get 10 BsoDs in a single hot day. Here is the message once my PC rebooted after the blue screen;

Problem signature:
Problem Event Name: BlueScreen
OS Version: 6.1.7601.2.1.0.256.1
Locale ID: 1032
Additional information about the problem:
BCCode: 1e BCP1: 0000000000000000
BCP2: 0000000000000000
BCP3: 0000000000000000
BCP4: 0000000000000000
OS Version: 6_1_7601 Service Pack: 1_0 Product: 256_1
Files that help describe the problem: C:\Windows\Minidump\062814-15818-01.dmp C:\Users\Αλέξανδρος\AppData\Local\Temp\WER-37097-0.sysdata.xml

Minidumps from last year: http://goo.gl/EDFrDn and http://goo.gl/fsruwN
Minidumps from today: http://goo.gl/G4tZxU and http://goo.gl/5xlaVO

Now the components temperature on desktop with chrome open (4tabs) using Speccy;
CPU 47C MOBO 40C GPU 56C HDD 49C

I run a sfc /scannow today and it repaired some stuff,tell me if you need the CBS log.
 
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The Sandisk is decent, but the aerocool only comes with a 80 mm fan so it won't be sufficient for such a giant case, look at the CoolerMaster N300 http://www.e-gate.gr/coolermaster-n300-black-nse-300-kkn1.html it costs more but it comes with 2 120mm fans preinstalled and it will be easier to install the SSD which might have been one of the features that you saw in the aerocool.

Are you running Windows 7 with the SSD? if yes, look at this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

It is almost automatic in windows 8 but I am not sure about windows XP and SSDs.
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Is it custom built / self built? (Airflow is usually an issue with computers that aren't prebuilt especially due to case size) Can you underclock the CPU by one notch / a couple megahertz? I do that every summer to decrease wear and tear on my processor.

What case do you use and is there space to add 2 front intake fans?
 
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Is it custom built / self built? (Airflow is usually an issue with computers that aren't prebuilt especially due to case size) Can you underclock the CPU by one notch / a couple megahertz? I do that every summer to decrease wear and tear on my processor.

What case do you use and is there space to add 2 front intake fans?
 
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It's built by a technician family friend.I have never overclocked/underclocked anything so I don't think i can do that..It takes only one 120mm fan and currently the front fan doesn't work.But I posted the temps and i don't think there is anything abnormal with them except for the drive that hit 50C today.
 
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Replace the front fan.

Anything else could be overheating. I had less issues after I installed the operating system, chipset and graphics drivers myself but your technician friend probably didn't mess up on that but reinstalling the operating system helps sometimes.

Hard drives don't overheat. They just die randomly.

I had blue screen all summer long when I had my falcon northwest since it was custom built and they never calculated proper air flow or what cubic feet per minute would be needed.

Just replace the front fan. If it is an AMD processor, right click on the desktop and go to AMD Catalyst Control Center and search for CPU power. I have no idea about intel though.

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Pondering is on the right track; if your front fan isn't working, there are other parts in the PC that can heat up and are NOT monitored and they can eventually burnout or simply heat up and stop working until cooled down.
Start by replacing the front fan so that there is some cool air flowing into the PC (yes, the room temp is warm to hot, not cool, but imagine what the temp inside your pc get to be; probably way over 50C.)
Try it, if it works, then it was a simple inexpensive fix.
I just checked Seagate's web site and a quick search found that most of their drives operate up to 60C, so 50C on your drive should not be a problem.
 
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I think I will buy a new case with better air flow (current one 5 years old,broken in some places) and a new 12cm fan.The ssd is necessary upgrade so I will report back once i have put it all together this week.

By the way this is the case http://goo.gl/ixrqM7 and this is the ssd http://goo.gl/McVYKn. I m on a budget so i think they are good choices,no ?
 
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The Sandisk is decent, but the aerocool only comes with a 80 mm fan so it won't be sufficient for such a giant case, look at the CoolerMaster N300 http://www.e-gate.gr/coolermaster-n300-black-nse-300-kkn1.html it costs more but it comes with 2 120mm fans preinstalled and it will be easier to install the SSD which might have been one of the features that you saw in the aerocool.

Are you running Windows 7 with the SSD? if yes, look at this: http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds

It is almost automatic in windows 8 but I am not sure about windows XP and SSDs.
 
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Seems very nice but i was thinking to save some on the case.I will ofc buy a 12cm fan for the front.I already have one 80mm and the case i want comes with another one.So 1 12cm front,1 80mm back and 1 80mm on the side .I think that's enough ?I mean why spent an extra 20r when i can get a 12fan for like 5 ?
 
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I am running win 7 64bit
 
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looked at some of your crashes, looked like driver bugs but you should have gotten more crashes.

you might want to remove or update some of your very old drivers

2008

\??\C:\Program Files (x86)\CyberLink\PowerDVD10\NavFilter\000.fcl Fri Sep 26 06:11:22 2008

security software from 2009?
aksdf \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\aksdf.sys Fri Sep 18 06:04:24 2009
aksfridge \??\C:\Windows\system32\drivers\aksfridge.sys Wed Aug 19 06:38:43 2009

your dvd clone software is pretty old
ElbyCDIO \SystemRoot\System32\Drivers\ElbyCDIO.sys Thu Dec 17 14:25:16 2009


old logmein driver from 2009, remove if you don't use the service anymore
hamachi \SystemRoot\system32\DRIVERS\hamachi.sys Thu Feb 19 02:36:41 2009

you have other drivers that also have known issues.
AsIO \SystemRoot\SysWow64\drivers\AsIO.sys Mon Dec 17 01:11:49 2007
asus driver from 2007 is not a good idea.


you might consider disabling all extentions on your chrome browser and see if you still get the various bug checks.
 
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I got my SSD and I will install everything from the beginning.How do you explain that those BSoDs are happening only in the summer and particularly when my room gets really hot if it's a software issue ?
 
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it is just very hard to tell the difference in a driver failure caused by memory corruption by another driver and a driver failure cause by memory corruption from over heating electronics. in the case of over heating electronics, bits are miss read 1's become zeros and zeros become 1's. Same thing happens with drivers corrupting other drivers memory. I was just pointing out you have some old drivers, some of them known to corrupt other drivers memory space.



 
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