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Okay. My parents are probably going to have to sell our boat because of financial reasons. To make it up to me (I am like the only one who really enjoyed it so my parents don't have any bad feelings about selling it except for me) my dad says that he would buy me a computer. I was thinking, cool, I will be able to get that graphics chip I wanted, along with a whole new system! But my mom says it has to be a laptop. Okay I said, that will have to work so lets make this the best laptop I can get within the parameters (Meaning price) they set up for me. My question is:

1. Which company (I have always had good experiences with Dells, but I don't know any other)
2. Which card. I am assuming that right now the ATI Mobility Radeon is the best out there. I want to be able to play my games on it (Splinter Cell Pandora Tomorrow, NFS Porshe Unleashed, etc, mainly splinter cell though). Would this card be my best bet? I don't have to have the best graphics but playable and have it look at least pretty good, The smaller screen will make it look better lol.

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Nathan P.
 

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go for the Dell XPS from the reviews i've read it is the fastest laptop and has a Ati mobility Radeon 9700 128mb
 

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yea the 9700 mobility is kickass


even if you have to go for a lower processor, thats the graphics card you want.. sinse you game

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why a laptop tho? tell them that itll be way cheaper to upgrade your existing computer , and they will probably change their minds :)


laptops arent the greatest for gaming mainly because MOST graphics chips are nothing like desktop graphc cards.. the only that is really good is the 9700mobile, and still thats not quite as fast as a 9600(desktop) if i remember correctly



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My mom said a laptop because it could be taken to school, also I am going on a big trip and I could take it. She said that that would be the only way. My dad think's its crazy to spend 200$ on a graphics card. I was looking at the model one down from the XPS, I can't afford that. If Only it wasn't so fat! It isn't too wide but it is rather fat hight wise.
 

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I don't think they would like the 1600$ price tag :(. They still haven't given me a set price. Can you upgrade the graphics card in a Laptop? Maybe if I bought the mobility 9700 myself they would like the deal better.
 

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ic.. i dunno than for laptop it will be around there for a good one.. i guess u can try buying the graphic card urself just make sure it can fit and support it.
 

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hmm i dont know, most i dont think you can , its like an onboard graphics chip


correct me if im wrong

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The Mobility Radeon's are aren't they? My parents haven't set a price threshold yet, so lets cross our (My) fingers and hope it is higher than expected.

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Blackhawk3d on 04/12/04 11:41 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

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i have no idea ;)

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We have alot of Dells at work, and the only thing that I've heard from the field guys is that they don't hold up as well as the Thinkpads.

I personally want to replace my old thinkpad with a new one, but in order to get the features I would like (for casual gaming) I would have to spend twice as much as a dell in most cases. For the entry level though I prefer the Thinkpad, But if you are doing any gaming, then avoid the IBMs. The new Dell is VERY nice, a bit big like you say, but an awesome machine, but the price is a major hurdle. It's got perfromance in the Alienware/Voodoo level, and the custom designs on the case cover (the skullz in particular) look nice. And all around attractive package. However price/performance there may be some better deals out there.

Unlike Voodon and Alienware, you can't upgrade the graphics system yourself, you must send it to Dell, but I have read they are very good about that kind of thing (although the service is still young).

A Dell will likely be your best bet for good performance and quality at a reasonable price. You could go with things like <A HREF="http://www.ibuypower.com/mall/lobby.htm" target="_new">'IBUYPOWER'</A> but I'm not sure about their reliability/support.

Hope that helps a bit, I'm currently trying to decide if gaming is worth the extra money considering how limited it will be and how limited my time gaming with it will be.


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Another good thing ive read about the dell inspiron xps is that it doesnt heat up like other comparable gaming notebooks. must have some nice cooling in that big case?


<b> Dell </b> 1.9 ghz, 768 mb RAM
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oh look, he has a <b>Dell CPU</b> at 1.9ghz!!

wow, is this a pre-release of some new high ipc processor? dude thats awesome post some benchies! :F

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Check out www.alienware.com They have kick-ass laptops and I've read that they are the most upgradeable ones out there. Good, reliable company too. They specialize on gaming systems.
 
If he has problems paying for a DELL XPS, then an Alienware won't be much different in that respect. Perhaps a low end <A HREF="http://www.alienware.com/system_pages/area-51m.aspx" target="_new">Area51</A> for about $2,000 might be ok.

And like I said it and the Voodoo are the most upgradable laptops out there.

Check Alienware's front page, and you'll see their promo of the ability to swap out graphics subsystems.


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Yeah, I was talking about the price limit and my Mom said something like dream on if you want a 2000 dollar computer or something like that. When I get the price limit I will be able to tell better.