News Switch 2 account ban saga continues as Redditor taunts Nintendo after ripping 20 cartridges and playing online — others warn that it's just a matte...

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A Reddit user claims to have used a Mig-Flash on their online Switch 2 console extensively and not gotten banned.

Switch 2 account ban saga continues as Redditor taunts Nintendo after ripping 20 cartridges and playing online — others warn that it's just a matte... : Read more

 

[osiris11235]

"It’s primarily used for backing up legally purchased games"

That's highly doubtful. How it's advertised likely has NO correlation with how it's used. This product is for piracy.

 

[VizzieTheViz]

Nintendo should have given the switch a decent amount of local storage so you don’t have to carry a bunch of games around to play all your stuff. Or do you still need the physical copy to play even if you’ve installed the game on the switch local storage?

Anyway if they’d made the switch more convenient to use there’d be far less of an excuse for stuff like this mig-thingy to exist and far more of an excuse for Nintendo to try and put a stop to it.

 

[gggplaya]

"It’s primarily used for backing up legally purchased games"

That's highly doubtful. How it's advertised likely has NO correlation with how it's used. This product is for piracy.

Actually, I have no need to pirate. As a parent, I cringe whenever my son carries around his Switch case loaded with games. At $60 each and something like 10 games. That's about $900 he's carrying around. Would be much nicer to mitigate it to just a switch as a flash card.

If I weren't worried about getting banned, I'd actually buy this and use it for it's stated purpose.

 

[-Fran-]

As it is often the case, the only ones really affected by draconic DRM is never those "who know", but the regular consumer.

Hack the planet and all that. Heh.

Regards.

 

[Silicon Mage]

Actually, I have no need to pirate. As a parent, I cringe whenever my son carries around his Switch case loaded with games. At $60 each and something like 10 games. That's about $900 he's carrying around. Would be much nicer to mitigate it to just a switch as a flash card.

If I weren't worried about getting banned, I'd actually buy this and use it for it's stated purpose.

So why wouldn’t it be safe to use the product for this purpose?

Every example of banning seems to be folks that bought used games that previous owners copied for themselves then sold.

Or people that ran two copies at the same time.

Has anyone been banned for copying a game and running the single copy with the originals safely stored away?

 

[diminishedfifth]

I will never give Nintendo my money, they are such a shady group

 

[cryoburner]

Nintendo should have given the switch a decent amount of local storage so you don’t have to carry a bunch of games around to play all your stuff. Or do you still need the physical copy to play even if you’ve installed the game on the switch local storage?

Anyway if they’d made the switch more convenient to use there’d be far less of an excuse for stuff like this mig-thingy to exist and far more of an excuse for Nintendo to try and put a stop to it.

The Switch 2 has a MicroSD Express slot, allowing users to expand the storage for games as they see fit. And it has 256 GB of internal storage, 8 times what the original Switch had and the same as what the current base-model SteamDeck has, which is arguably a fine enough capacity for holding a decent number of games. Including additional storage would just drive up the device's cost for those who don't need it. Nintendo's largest first-party games so far are all under 25 GB, though some third-party AAA games are up around 60GB. Many third-party games will likely be optimized for the hardware though, as you don't exactly need ultra-high resolution textures when playing games on an 8-inch 1080p screen, and even docked, the device is going to be limited by its graphics hardware, which is most comparable in performance to an entry-level PC graphics card from 9 years ago. A flash card device like this also requires MicroSD storage to run games from, so there isn't much difference there.

 

[hotaru251]

How it's advertised likely has NO correlation with how it's used. This product is for piracy.

thats same for anything.
The legit reason can be the main reason even if its the least used one.

Nintendo restricts backups to their subscription model...and even IF you do pay for it some games do NOT let you backup at all. (pokemon games are example of this due to risk of abuse of trading, then reverting and basically cloning pkmn), Back on the 3ds w/ I think it was pkmn x/y many people were shafted by a bug in game that bricked your save if you saved in a major town.
This happened after the evnt for a 1 time obtainable item....meaning peopel started over and lost out on ever getting that item again. The fix for it didnt come for like 2 weeks (and no mention of it ever beign fixed so ppl never were aware to not start over).
This is why some people like having backups in event a game comes a game breaking issue.


Piracy is a grey area at best.
If I buy my console, the games, & I obey every rule about not cheating....is it piracy?

If you bought a game, it dies from age, is no longer made, gets stolen, or some other accident happens that its not playable anymore is it piracy to dl a rom of it? you paid them for the product so does it really matter how you play it so long as you paid to begin with and arent sharing it?


Yes, Piracy is a big issue, however it isnt black & white as there are grey areas.

I am a big Nintendo fan. Owned every console (except the virtual boy), some multiple of each, from og gameboy to the Switch 1...only reason I dont have a switch 2 atm is no exclusively switch 2 games I care about atm...I'll likely buy one in future though.
I like the products (if its one thing i will always defend Nintendo for its they are one of only game companies that try stuff out thats different even if it will fail) and I know devs of games don't make the anti fanbase choices of the company so I enjoy their games.
At the end of the day people like me who do support and buy stuff (even when every generation of Nintendo consoles have been easy to pirate for over a decade now) still out number the people who pirate it illegally.

Has anyone been banned for copying a game and running the single copy with the originals safely stored away?

we won't know that answer most likely.
From my udnerstanding its server seeing a game carts specific data being used by multiple systems in a period of time thus triggers that specific games id to trigger a ban.

Apart from that the device detecting a flashcart device "could" get you banned i guess but again we likely wont know.

 

[JamesJones44]

Actually, I have no need to pirate. As a parent, I cringe whenever my son carries around his Switch case loaded with games. At $60 each and something like 10 games. That's about $900 he's carrying around. Would be much nicer to mitigate it to just a switch as a flash card.

If I weren't worried about getting banned, I'd actually buy this and use it for it's stated purpose.

My understanding of how this works is each cart has a unique ID that gets paired with a system when inserted along with an online account/location. Once Nintendo sees the same cart ID being used in several different systems and several different locations the ban occurs. Thus for this use case one "should" be safe.

I know my kids share carts all the time and a ban has not occurred, my son traded games with another friend for the Switch 2 and neither has been band. My suspicion is Nintendo bans these once they see several instances, not just one or two.

 

[JamesJones44]

Nintendo should have given the switch a decent amount of local storage so you don’t have to carry a bunch of games around to play all your stuff. Or do you still need the physical copy to play even if you’ve installed the game on the switch local storage?

I don't think carts can be physically copied to storage (at least one couldn't on the Switch 1) and they don't take up space in that instance. Storage is for games bought via the Online Shop, saves, recordings, screen shots, etc. The internal storage is also extendable with MicroSD Express cards.

 

[ThisIsMe]

This whole Nintendo banning access thing is intentionally excessive, and just screams malicious overkill. If they feel confident enough in their detection capabilities, then they should be able to simply block specific game images from working. There is zero need to cripple devices or ban accounts. ijs

 

[watzupken]

"It’s primarily used for backing up legally purchased games"

That's highly doubtful. How it's advertised likely has NO correlation with how it's used. This product is for piracy.

The tool certainly can be misused and it’s clearly being misused. However, as a Switch owner and having multiple game cartridges, I think it is a great solution especially if you are on a vacation. You need the cartridge to run the game and I must make a choice what is the best game to slot into my Switch before I pack my bag and leave. The MIG switch solves this problem and the games are legally purchased. Unfortunately, the MIG switch came out quite late and I have moved on to Steam Deck which stores all the games I want to play on the hard drive. I may miss some Nintendo first party games, but when I have so many games installed on the Steam Deck that I can easily access, I have games to keep me occupied.

 

[micheal_15]

As it is often the case, the only ones really affected by draconic DRM is never those "who know", but the regular consumer.

Hack the planet and all that. Heh.

Regards.

Hacking the planet was attempted. However it was found that Earth runs mostly on StupidityOS with a few SuperstitiousCult plugins.