System blue screen on 1.65 ram but seems to work fine on 1.5

[joshuanathan]

Hello,

So i've been going insane about this.

I have a PC with a Asus Rampage IV Black board and Corsair Dominator Platinum 4x8gb kit and with that kit in it crashes all the time. Normally after 20 mins or sometimes longer.

I have another PC with hyper x ram 2x4gb and a cheap Asus mobo which has never had an issue.

I've tried mem test etc on Asus rampage and all is fine.

However, if i swap the hyper x into the Asus rampage it seems to be fine.

The only thing i can think of is its a voltage issue? The dominator ram works fine in my other PC (although only tried 16gb instead of 32).

Any ideas?

I can post full pc specs if it helps.


All info as requested:


Specs of Dominator Ram (in old PC):
Item Slot #1 Slot #2 Slot #3 Slot #4
Ram Type DDR3 DDR3 Not Populated Not Populated
Maximum Clock Speed (MHz) 889 (XMP) 889 (XMP)
Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1777 DDR3-1777
Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-14200 PC3-14200
Memory Capacity (MB) 8192 8192
Jedec Manufacture Name Corsair Corsair
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SPD Revision 1.1 1.1
Registered No No
ECC No No
DIMM Slot # 1 2
Manufactured
Module Part # CMD32GX3M4A1866C9 CMD32GX3M4A1866C9
Module Revision 0x0 0x0
Module Serial # 0x0 0x0
Module Manufacturing Location 1 1
# of Row Addressing Bits 16 16
# of Column Addressing Bits 10 10
# of Banks 8 8
# of Ranks 2 2
Device Width in Bits 8 8
Bus Width in Bits 64 64
Module Voltage 1.5V 1.5V
CAS Latencies Supported 6 7 9 6 7 9
Timings @ Max Frequency (JEDEC) 9-9-9-24 9-9-9-24
Maximum frequency (MHz) 667 667
Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1333 DDR3-1333
Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-10600 PC3-10600
Minimum Clock Cycle Time, tCK (ns) 1.500 1.500
Minimum CAS Latency Time, tAA (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum RAS to CAS Delay, tRCD (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum Row Precharge Time, tRP (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum Active to Precharge Time, tRAS (ns) 36.000 36.000
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) 6.000 6.000
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Time, tRC (ns) 48.125 48.125
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC (ns) 260.000 260.000
DDR3 Specific SPD Attributes
Write Recovery Time, tWR (ns) 15.000 15.000
Internal Write to Read Command Delay, tWTR (ns) 7.500 7.500
Internal Read to Precharge Command Delay, tRTP (ns) 7.500 7.500
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay, tFAW (ns) 30.000 30.000
RZQ / 6 Supported Yes Yes
RZQ / 7 Supported Yes Yes
DLL-Off Mode Supported Yes Yes
Maximum Operating Temperature Range (C) 0-95 0-95
Refresh Rate at Extended Operating Temperature Range 2X 2X
Auto-self Refresh Supported No No
On-die Thermal Sensor Readout Supported No No
Partial Array Self Refresh Supported Yes Yes
Thermal Sensor Present No No
Non-standard SDRAM Type Standard Monolithic Standard Monolithic
Module Type UDIMM UDIMM
Module Height (mm) 30 30
Module Thickness (front), (mm) 3 3
Module Thickness (back), (mm) 3 3
Module Width (mm) 133.5 133.5
Reference Raw Card Used Raw Card B Rev. 0 Raw Card B Rev. 0
DRAM Manufacture
XMP Attributes
XMP Revision 1.3 1.3
Enthusiast / Certified Profile
Module voltage 1.50V 1.50V
Clock speed (MHz) 889 889
Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1777 DDR3-1777
Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-14200 PC3-14200
Minimum clock cycle time, tCK (ns) 1.125 1.125
Supported CAS latencies 6 9 6 9
Minimum CAS latency time, tAA (ns) 9.625 9.625
Minimum RAS to CAS delay time, tRCD (ns) 10.625 10.625
Minimum row precharge time, tRP (ns) 9.625 9.625
Minimum active to precharge time, tRAS (ns) 28.875 28.875
Supported timing at highest clock speed 9-10-9-26 9-10-9-26
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) 6.375 6.375
Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay, tRC (ns) 38.500 38.500
Minimum Recovery Delay, tRFC (ns) 260.375 260.375
Minimum Write Recovery time, tWR (ns) 28.875 28.875
Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay, tWTR (ns) 7.500 7.500
Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay, tRTP (ns) 8.500 8.500
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay, tFAW (ns) 31.000 31.000
Maximum Average Periodic Refresh Interval, tREFI (us) 7.750 7.750
Write to Read CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
Read to Write CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
Back 2 Back CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
System CMD Rate Mode 2T 2T


Specs old ram in New PC that seems to work:

Item Slot #1 Slot #2 Slot #3 Slot #4 Slot #5 Slot #6 Slot #7 Slot #8
Ram Type DDR3 DDR3 Not Populated Not Populated Not Populated Not Populated Not Populated Not Populated
Maximum Clock Speed (MHz) 800 (JEDEC) 800 (JEDEC)
Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1600 DDR3-1600
Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-12800 PC3-12800
Memory Capacity (MB) 4096 4096
Jedec Manufacture Name Kingston Kingston
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SPD Revision 1.1 1.1
Registered No No
ECC No No
DIMM Slot # 1 2
Manufactured Week 39 of Year 2013 Week 39 of Year 2013
Module Part # KHX1600C9D3/4GX KHX1600C9D3/4GX
Module Revision 0x0 0x0
Module Serial # 0x6D323199 0x65324899
Module Manufacturing Location 7 7
# of Row Addressing Bits 16 16
# of Column Addressing Bits 10 10
# of Banks 8 8
# of Ranks 1 1
Device Width in Bits 8 8
Bus Width in Bits 64 64
Module Voltage 1.5V 1.5V
CAS Latencies Supported 6 7 8 9 10 11 6 7 8 9 10 11
Timings @ Max Frequency (JEDEC) 11-11-11-28 11-11-11-28
Maximum frequency (MHz) 800 800
Maximum Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1600 DDR3-1600
Maximum Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-12800 PC3-12800
Minimum Clock Cycle Time, tCK (ns) 1.250 1.250
Minimum CAS Latency Time, tAA (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum RAS to CAS Delay, tRCD (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum Row Precharge Time, tRP (ns) 13.125 13.125
Minimum Active to Precharge Time, tRAS (ns) 35.000 35.000
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) 6.000 6.000
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Time, tRC (ns) 48.125 48.125
Minimum Auto-Refresh to Active/Auto-Refresh Command Period, tRFC (ns) 260.000 260.000
DDR3 Specific SPD Attributes
Write Recovery Time, tWR (ns) 15.000 15.000
Internal Write to Read Command Delay, tWTR (ns) 7.500 7.500
Internal Read to Precharge Command Delay, tRTP (ns) 7.500 7.500
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay, tFAW (ns) 30.000 30.000
RZQ / 6 Supported Yes Yes
RZQ / 7 Supported Yes Yes
DLL-Off Mode Supported Yes Yes
Maximum Operating Temperature Range (C) 0-95 0-95
Refresh Rate at Extended Operating Temperature Range 2X 2X
Auto-self Refresh Supported No No
On-die Thermal Sensor Readout Supported No No
Partial Array Self Refresh Supported No No
Thermal Sensor Present No No
Non-standard SDRAM Type Standard Monolithic Standard Monolithic
Module Type UDIMM UDIMM
Module Height (mm) 30 30
Module Thickness (front), (mm) 2 2
Module Thickness (back), (mm) 2 2
Module Width (mm) 133.5 133.5
Reference Raw Card Used Raw Card A Rev. 1 Raw Card A Rev. 1
DRAM Manufacture Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics) Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
XMP Attributes
XMP Revision 1.3 1.3
Enthusiast / Certified Profile
Module voltage 1.65V 1.65V
Clock speed (MHz) 800 800
Transfer Speed (MHz) DDR3-1600 DDR3-1600
Bandwidth (MB/s) PC3-12800 PC3-12800
Minimum clock cycle time, tCK (ns) 1.250 1.250
Supported CAS latencies 6 7 8 9 6 7 8 9
Minimum CAS latency time, tAA (ns) 11.250 11.250
Minimum RAS to CAS delay time, tRCD (ns) 11.250 11.250
Minimum row precharge time, tRP (ns) 11.250 11.250
Minimum active to precharge time, tRAS (ns) 33.750 33.750
Supported timing at highest clock speed 9-9-9-27 9-9-9-27
Minimum Row Active to Row Active Delay, tRRD (ns) 6.000 6.000
Minimum Active to Auto-Refresh Delay, tRC (ns) 45.000 45.000
Minimum Recovery Delay, tRFC (ns) 260.000 260.000
Minimum Write Recovery time, tWR (ns) 15.000 15.000
Minimum Write to Read CMD Delay, tWTR (ns) 7.500 7.500
Minimum Read to Pre-charge CMD Delay, tRTP (ns) 7.500 7.500
Minimum Four Activate Window Delay, tFAW (ns) 30.000 30.000
Maximum Average Periodic Refresh Interval, tREFI (us) 7.875 7.875
Write to Read CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
Read to Write CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
Back 2 Back CMD Turn-around Time Optimizations No adjustment No adjustment
System CMD Rate Mode 0T 0T


Bios Version:
0507 x64

Pictures of Bios Specs

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[smorizio]

on the new mb did you use the usb flashback and put the newest bios file on the mb to rule out it missing ram or cpu code??? is the mb running standard speed or performace mode. in performace mode the mb will change the cpu to ram bus speed and can cause issues. make sure in the ai setting the ram set to xmp profile.

 

[americanbrian]

List the voltages and timings on all the kits. Are you using XMP settings or have you tweaked anything yourself? Have you tried increasing the northbridge voltage to accommodate higher memory bandwidth?

 

[joshuanathan]

Hello thanks for the feedback i will be checking the moment i get home and i will post back to the forum.

I have not used the flashback tool to update the bios.

But everything is standard and i think its in performance mode. The PC is currently fresh install of windows 8 so i figure everything is as standard from the box bar the disc updates.

 

[Tradesman1]

What model of dominators, probably need to up the VCCSA voltage for 32GB, would start with it at 1.2

 

[joshuanathan]

Hi Everyone i posted a picture of the bios screens and also all info on ram.

 

[Tradesman1]

Have you tried raising the VCCSA as suggested

 

[joshuanathan]

Currently working out how to do it correctly. Will report back when done.

 

[smorizio]

you allmost have the first bios on that mb. the newest bios is RAMPAGE IV BLACK EDITION Beta BIOS 0801
Enables 128GB(8*16GB) support by IM ( Intelligent Memory ) memory modules.
the non beta is 701. i put the newest bios on it see if htta helps.

 

[XirtamatriX]

there is nothing wrong with BIOS . RAM cause blue screen, change RAM all not support Partial Array Self Refresh you will fix problem. or use spdtool 0.63 read and edit RAM SPD tune off PASR