Build Advice System Build specs....what do you think

rayanik

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What do you guys think of the components for this build?
Some gaming, MS Office.....using multiple windows, photo-editing, and soon going to start scanning photos and general use.

I am retired and will not be able to build another full system probably for another 5 to 7 years. Therefore I would like to buy what I can (thus reason for Ryzen 3600 instead of older cpu) and make it upgradeable as well so I can afford the odd component if and when it is necessary.

Thoughts?
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/rayanik/saved/#view=JrH9NG
 

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Motherboard: While the B450 Steel Legend is a nice looking motherboard, unfortunately, it doesn't support Ryzen 3000 out of the box without a bios update.
Consider one of Msi's B450 MAX models, or motherboard that advertises a bios flashback feature. Here's a few examples:
-MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
-ASRock B450M/AC Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard (this board is fairly new, and other posters have confirmed it works out of the box with Ryzen 3000)
-MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard
 
Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($259.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: MSI B450 Gaming Plus ATX AM4 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($76.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card ($549.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC56 PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($77.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: LG 24MK600M-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($163.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1538.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-07 04:27 EST-0500


Probably $50 over budget but is lot more powerful as well as reliable. This is around 50% more powerful for gaming.
I included 500GB SSD instead of 1TB as you can add secondary HDD for storage when ever you need.
That is Free-Sync IPS monitor better suited for you. 24" is recommended for 1080p instead of 27".
 
If gaming is not your absolute priority, then this should work better for you...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor | $219.99 @ Amazon Canada
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $229.90 @ Vuugo
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $130.62 @ shopRBC
Video Card | XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB DD Ultra Video Card | $439.90 @ Amazon Canada
Case | Corsair SPEC-05 ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ Canada Computers
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $104.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor | LG 24MK600M-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor | $163.99 @ Newegg Canada
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1469.37
| Mail-in rebates | -$20.00
| Total | $1449.37
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-07 07:23 EST-0500 |


The 2700x is still a very good gaming chip and you have a potent upgrade path...
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_R5YxqzEsJs
 

rayanik

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  • Gaming is not a priority. I was hoping to keep the GPU at approx. $200-$250 range.
  • I really would like a Case maybe with tempered glass case with some room and cool ventilation
  • Ryzen 7 is an interesting consideration.
We are getting close.
 
  • Gaming is not a priority. I was hoping to keep the GPU at approx. $200-$250 range.
  • I really would like a Case maybe with tempered glass case with some room and cool ventilation
  • Ryzen 7 is an interesting consideration.
We are getting close.
Well then...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 2700X 3.7 GHz 8-Core Processor | $219.99 @ Newegg Canada
Motherboard | MSI MPG X570 GAMING EDGE WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard | $229.90 @ Vuugo
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $109.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $130.62 @ shopRBC
Video Card | ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card | $225.05 @ Vuugo
Case | Phanteks ECLIPSE P350X ATX Mid Tower Case | $94.99 @ Amazon Canada
Power Supply | Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply | $104.99 @ Canada Computers
Operating System | Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit | $134.75 @ Vuugo
Case Fan | Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190 CFM 120 mm Fan | $34.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Case Fan | Delta Electronics FFB1212EHE-F00 190 CFM 120 mm Fan | $34.95 @ Newegg Canada Marketplace
Monitor | LG 24MK600M-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor | $154.99 @ Memory Express
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1525.17
| Mail-in rebates | -$50.00
| Total | $1475.17
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-08 05:17 EST-0500 |

Note: If you manage to get a Windows license cheap, then get the 3700x for more longevity and better performance.
 

rayanik

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Sorry.... haven't quite had the time to respond.....family stuff.

So I have settled {just about} and put down a partial deposit with Memory Express on the following:


https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HLrQGc

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HLrQGc
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.00 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($242.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($128.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($129.75 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: AOC 27G2 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($289.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1390.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 02:27 EST-0500

MY QUESTION(S):
What do you think of system? I want to future proof so that is the reason for the X570 board and the case that really appeals to me.

Should I opt for the Ryzen 5 3600 (which is about $65 more than 3400) OR should I get the R7 2700x (which is only $25 more) ? In either case it would mean adding a video card. I didn't want to spend a lot on the video card at this time and perhaps I can buy a very basic one for less than $100. However, I don't want buyers remorse thinking I should have gone for the higher end and to just bite the bullet with the Zotac Geoforce Super 1660 (AMP)? Or can you see how it could be staggered?

I cannot find a monitor to pair with this. The one listed is sold by a company that may have difficulty fulfilling the order.
I would like a 27" IPS and was hoping for 144 Hz...….open to your thoughts?.

Your timely responses would be appreciated.
thank you.
 

xravenxdota

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I can vote the gamin plus msi board are solid but msi b450 tomahawk is better.I personally don't see a reason to get an x570 if you are not using PCIe 4.They are OP af.My pc are built to last me 4-5years and it's only a 2600.I would up it a little either 2700x or a 3600.Depends on your budget.
 
Listen as you are unwilling to upgrade the build or swap it completely for a long period of time like 5-8Yrs. I highly recommend spending bit extra and going for better performance build.

Here is the list:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($269.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus TUF B450M-PRO GAMING Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: HP EX900 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($76.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card ($539.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.00 @ Newegg Canada)
Wireless Network Adapter: Asus PCE-AC58BT PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter ($54.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Monitor: LG 24MK600M-B 24.0" 1920x1080 75 Hz Monitor ($169.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1515.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 03:33 EST-0500


One thing I would like to make it clear is that you don't need to buy Windows10 as it runs completely fine even without activation. You can activate it later at any time.

The list I provided is of high quality and lot better performance.

The Motherboard I recommend purchasing from local retailer. I recommend going out and purchasing it directly from PC component retailer or from ASUS showroom as they provide free BIOS upgrade. ASUS is better in quality than MSI. Specially yhe TUF and ROG STRIX series.

You wont be needing higher refresh rate monitor as even RX5700XT will be unable to push that high fps over that long period of time.

This is more practical, no compromise, high quality and satisfying build that will last you long.
 
Sorry.... haven't quite had the time to respond.....family stuff.

So I have settled {just about} and put down a partial deposit with Memory Express on the following:


https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HLrQGc

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/HLrQGc
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.00 @ shopRBC)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard ($242.75 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Blue SN550 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive ($104.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($128.96 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($129.75 @ Vuugo)
Monitor: AOC 27G2 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor ($289.99 @ Canada Computers)
Total: $1390.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 02:27 EST-0500

MY QUESTION(S):
What do you think of system? I want to future proof so that is the reason for the X570 board and the case that really appeals to me.

Should I opt for the Ryzen 5 3600 (which is about $65 more than 3400) OR should I get the R7 2700x (which is only $25 more) ? In either case it would mean adding a video card. I didn't want to spend a lot on the video card at this time and perhaps I can buy a very basic one for less than $100. However, I don't want buyers remorse thinking I should have gone for the higher end and to just bite the bullet with the Zotac Geoforce Super 1660 (AMP)? Or can you see how it could be staggered?

I cannot find a monitor to pair with this. The one listed is sold by a company that may have difficulty fulfilling the order.
I would like a 27" IPS and was hoping for 144 Hz...….open to your thoughts?.

Your timely responses would be appreciated.
thank you.
If you really want longevity, simply get a better processor...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $419.95 @ Vuugo
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $167.95 @ Vuugo
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $99.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $129.25 @ Vuugo
Video Card | ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card | $199.50 @ Vuugo
Case | Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case | $130.65 @ Vuugo
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor | AOC 27G2 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $289.99 @ Canada Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1637.27
| Mail-in rebates | -$100.00
| Total | $1537.27
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 04:56 EST-0500 |
 

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Go for ryzen 5 2600
B450 mobo like tomahawk if you wanna upgrade to higher cpu later
Any ddr4 ram will do even the cheap one
Buy RX 580 even used one will come cheap enough
Buy 450-550W PSU like cooler master, be quiet u9, or Bitfenix whisper
Buy a good case if you want
 

rayanik

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If you really want longevity, simply get a better processor...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor | $419.95 @ Vuugo
Motherboard | ASRock X570 Phantom Gaming 4 ATX AM4 Motherboard | $167.95 @ Vuugo
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $99.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $129.25 @ Vuugo
Video Card | ASRock Radeon RX 580 8 GB Phantom Gaming X Video Card | $199.50 @ Vuugo
Case | Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case | $130.65 @ Vuugo
Power Supply | Corsair TXM Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $99.99 @ Canada Computers
Monitor | AOC 27G2 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor | $289.99 @ Canada Computers
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total (before mail-in rebates) | $1637.27
| Mail-in rebates | -$100.00
| Total | $1537.27
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-21 04:56 EST-0500 |

Is the ASRock-x570-phantom gaming 4 atx am4-motherboard better in any way than the ASUS TUF x570 Gaming with WIFI which is under consideration?
 

Phaaze88

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Is the ASRock-x570-phantom gaming 4 atx am4-motherboard better in any way than the ASUS TUF x570 Gaming with WIFI which is under consideration?
Probably not:
[I've got the link starting at 41:17]
View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eG3DYE2uAys&t=2477s


Some of the technical mumbo-jumbo will likely go over your head - Buildzoid goes over it for like a few seconds, and then goes "Oh no...", and moves on.
Asus and Gigabyte appear to be #1 for the X570 budget range.
 

rayanik

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Hi guys,
So this is what I bought. I spent a little less and that will allow me to buy. Gpu when i am no longer satisfied with the one integrated video.

I stlll have to order the monitor.
Thanks everyone.

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/9BncRk

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Procecessor
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS WIFI
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600
Storage: ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive Storage: Western Digital Blue 4 TB 3.5" 5400RPM Internal Hard Drive Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case ($128.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit

Still to be purchased: Monitor: LG 29WK600-W 29.0" 2560x1080 APPROX COST $314.95 Canadian.