Question System crashes when playing games, DRAM yellow light pops up

[MangoLover]

On bootup, on the motherboard I sometimes see the cpu and ram lights pop up for a moment, before it is able to POST and I am able to use the PC as usual; that is until I start playing some games.

Games
When in Tales of Arise or Monster Hunter World, I will experience crashes here and there, in Tales of Arise I get a clean reboot whereas with World I get a freeze (reproduced within 15 minutes of playing, happened as i was alt tabbing around and got the dram yellow light).
In my playing of Guilty Gear Strive or Street Fighter I haven't really noticed much (maybe I havent let those run long enough).

When trying the Monster Hunter Wilds benchmark, my system crashes and just reboots itself. I am able to catch the DRAM light pop on being yellow. This is something that's been reported by others with an AMD graphics card so I wouldn't discount needing to wait for an update (Im on 25.1.1) Reducing my RAM speed to 4800 / 5200 I was able to not crash instantly, but on 6000 it crashed within seconds of booting up.

In all three cases I'll keep occt open / the radeon monitoring overlay open and I don't notice anything off about the CPU, Memory, and GPU metrics and then it just dies.

Running Dolphin emulator I've been stable and havent encountered any crashes.

Stress Tests / Tests performed

1. I've turned the EXPO profile on and off but to no avail, the system instability remains.
2. Turned off the IGPU.
3. I ran Memtest86 overnight and got 9 passes (and ran it with different ram speeds and never encountered any failures)
4. My BIOS for my motherboard is up to date; 7D75v1L 2024-12-26
5. I updated AMD graphics driver is up to date 25.1.1
6. Ran Cinebench for both CPU and GPU.
7. Ran various OCCT tests for an hour. I've had 1 crash running the `Combined` test after 23 minutes (I did combine 3D standard, 3d adaptive and VRAM at the same time) but the other two times (CPU+RAM with large dataset, AVX2 instruction set normal mode, Linpack, Memory, 3D standard) I ran it I didn't encounter any issues in the hour.
8. Ran Prime95 I ran the torture test for an hour and didnt see any errors in the results.txt.
9. Ran Furmark

In the crashes
Nothing in event viewer seems to give much info either, at most I see Event Id 41 task category 63 The system has rebooted without cleanly shutting down first. This error could be caused if the system stopped responding, crashed, or lost power unexpectedly.


What I haven't tried
Due to it being incredibly difficult to take out my GPU (theres very little space to depress the lock, I could try to use a wooden chopstick) I have not re-seated any components. I thought that given the extended stress tests above it was ok (this was my second time building a pc and I'm scared to take things out)
I could try downgrading Windows 11 as I know that 24h2 is apparently a big problem

Here are my specs
OS: Windows 11 24h2
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler
Motherboard: MSI MAG B650 TOMAHAWK WIFI ATX AM5 Motherboard
Memory: TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory
Storage: TEAMGROUP Cardea A440 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Sapphire PURE Radeon RX 7800 XT 16 GB Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Pop Air ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply

Any insight is greatly appreciated!

Images:

https://imgur.com/a/NhOjgJ9

 

[Lutfij]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Reducing my RAM speed to 4800 / 5200 I was able to not crash instantly, but on 6000 it crashed within seconds of booting up.
This reads to me as either being a memory issue or the BIOS on your motherboard. Can you source(borrow, not buy) a ram kit that has AMD's E.X.P.O advertised on it? Pick out a DDR5-6000MHz ram kit. On a side note, does the issue persist when working with one stick of ram populating slot A2?

My BIOS for my motherboard is up to date; 7D75v1L 2024-12-26
Did you clear the CMOS after verifying your BIOS flash was successful?

Use DDU to remove all GPU drivers(intel, Nvidia and AMD) in Safe Mode, then manually install the latest driver sourced from AMD's support site, in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

You might want to tax the system with a wider gamut of games to see if the issue persists.

 

[MangoLover]

Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Reducing my RAM speed to 4800 / 5200 I was able to not crash instantly, but on 6000 it crashed within seconds of booting up.
This reads to me as either being a memory issue or the BIOS on your motherboard. Can you source(borrow, not buy) a ram kit that has AMD's E.X.P.O advertised on it? Pick out a DDR5-6000MHz ram kit. On a side note, does the issue persist when working with one stick of ram populating slot A2?

My BIOS for my motherboard is up to date; 7D75v1L 2024-12-26
Did you clear the CMOS after verifying your BIOS flash was successful?

Use DDU to remove all GPU drivers(intel, Nvidia and AMD) in Safe Mode, then manually install the latest driver sourced from AMD's support site, in an elevated command, i.e, Right click installer>Run as Administrator.

You might want to tax the system with a wider gamut of games to see if the issue persists.

Thanks so much for your reply I'll try out each of your suggestions later today and perhaps get back tomorrow as I haven't tried any of them.

Unfortunately I don't have an extra DDR5-6000MHz ram kit available to me 🙁 at most I can say anecdotally that my friend has the same motherboard / ram (except with a 9800x3d) and he's been fine.

As for all the other screenshots you're thinking that it's "memory issue or the BIOS on your motherboard"? The CPU and GPU is hopefully fine? Just because I was a little scared I messed up putting the CPU / GPU in.

Again thank you, I was debating going to a pc repair shop just to get this solved haha.

 

[MangoLover]

Posting an update; I cleared the CMOS using this tutorial (saw that things reset) and used DDU in safe mode to remove all the GPU drivers and installed the driver (though I forgot to do this with elevated permissions).

When trying the benchmark with `Ultra` settings with 4800Mhz 16Gb I got a crash, but out of curiosity I added back in my other stick and then put it back to 6000 to see if I would get the instant crash, it did not and the test actually completed, albeit on `High` settings

I'll do more testing in the next few days with my other problematic games as well.

Hopefully I never have to reply to this thread again. If I do encounter further instability maybe I'll keep an eye out for some good DDR5 deals.