[SOLVED] System wants Drives to be Initialized, Despite Being Initialized

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Over the weekend, I upgraded my CPU, Motherboard and some drives to new ones. I now have four SSD's from the former two. One of the new ones is an NVME, which I use as a primary OS and applications drive. The second is a 500GB ssd that wasn't replaced. The other two are 4TB SSD's to replace the 2TB drives I had which is where I installed games, kept mod files and housed various video captured clips respectively.

Before actually going through the build, while I was waiting for the CPU and Motherboard to arrive, I copied the contents of the 2TB HDD's to the new 4TB SSD's. Now that the upgrade and build is done and running pretty ok the 500GB ssd is detected and all files are intact, but these two bigger SSD's aren't showing up on the File Explorer. In fact, when I go into Management, I can see them both with 1.6TB worth of unallocated space each. I right-click on them and every option but 'Properties' is greyed out ( View: https://i.imgur.com/7D8EEPd.png
). I even looked in the BIOS, and they actually do show the correct capacity there.

Just this afternoon, I had to redo the cables since I forgot to plug some stuff for the RGB, so I decided to see what happens if I plug the new SSD's to my laptop through USB using https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B011M8YACM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1, which is also what I had to use to copy the data from the old drives. The laptop detected both drives without any problems.

Now, I try the same with the bigger 3.5" drives on both the PC and the laptop, and both devices want them initialized. When I try to do so, it gives a hardware error message again, on both PC and laptop.
So I want to ask what my options are in this situation? I of course want to be able to use the SSD's in their full 4TB capacity, and not lose any of their data inside. The last resort solution I'm can think of is to initialize and format the two 3.5" HDD's, copy the data from the SSD's into them on the laptop. But then I'm stuck with not being able to initialize the SSD's or the HDD's at all. If there's a different, better solution, I would much rather have that.
 

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The new enclosure for the 3.5" HDD's arrived, and it works. I can see the contents of both 2TB HDD's when they're connected to USB now.

Now the problem is getting the SSD's to work when connected internally. I'm trying to do it through Diskpart, but I get this problem: View: https://imgur.com/JMy5OL0


What I was hoping to do was to format them, assign drive letters and copy the data over as someone suggested, but I can't seem to be able to even delete the partitions, just like in Window's Disk Management.
 

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The new enclosure for the 3.5" HDD's arrived, and it works. I can see the contents of both 2TB HDD's when they're connected to USB now.

Now the problem is getting the SSD's to work when connected internally. I'm trying to do it through Diskpart, but I get this problem: View: https://imgur.com/JMy5OL0


What I was hoping to do was to format them, assign drive letters and copy the data over as someone suggested, but I can't seem to be able to even delete the partitions, just like in Window's Disk Management.
Drive letters don't necessarily hold when moving from external to internal.

Often, the "drive letter" speaks to the external enclosure.
I have an external dock thing that is seen as the "J drive", no matter what HDD I put in it.
I have a microSD USB adapter, that is always the D. Again, no matter what microSD card I put in it.
 

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Drive letters don't necessarily hold when moving from external to internal.

Often, the "drive letter" speaks to the external enclosure.
I have an external dock thing that is seen as the "J drive", no matter what HDD I put in it.
I have a microSD USB adapter, that is always the D. Again, no matter what microSD card I put in it.
Right, right. So, how do I go about doing what I want to do to be able to use the SSD's internally?
 

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Right, right. So, how do I go about doing what I want to do to be able to use the SSD's internally?
Where is the data now? On an HDD?

(assuming this is just secondary drives...no OS)
If so...
Put the HDD in the external thing.
Put the SSD in the internal. Format and give it whatever drive letter you choose.
Copy the data.

Or am I missing something critical?
 

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Where is the data now? On an HDD?

(assuming this is just secondary drives...no OS)
If so...
Put the HDD in the external thing.
Put the SSD in the internal. Format and give it whatever drive letter you choose.
Copy the data.

Or am I missing something critical?
HDD 1 has the same data as SSD 1, HDD 2 has the same data as HDD 2.

That's what I'm trying to do, however the problem is I can't format through Window's Storage Manager since all the options are greyed out, and it's not letting me on Diskpart since it can't even see the volume: View: https://imgur.com/z7I58rT

It's like it won't let me do anything at all to the SSD when connected internally.
 

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May we assume you have verified, in the user manual, there is no conflict between the M.2 port and whatever SATA port you're using?
Yep,. plus, when the HDD's were connected through SATA a day or two ago as a test, they worked properly. The only thing the M.2 would conflict with would've been the GPU.
 

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Maybe you could use DMDE (freeware disc editor) to reset the GPT metadata?

https://dmde.com/

You may need to select Device I/O Parameters -> Allow Write.
I have no idea how. Is that the Reset GPT/MBR Signatures?

Also, when I look up the SSD on DMDE, it shows this: View: https://i.imgur.com/GzcunMi.png


Dunno why there's a red X on that part as opposed to a device that it detects properly: View: https://i.imgur.com/ayQdfAc.png
 
LBA 0 contains a protective MBR.

LBA 1 should contain the EFI PART metadata.

LBA 2 should contain the first 4 GPT partitions.

However, in the case of your 4TB drive, LBA1 is incomplete and LBA 2 is empty.

Highlight the first line (Disk 2 - 4.0 TB) and then click the GPT Off button. Then select Disk -> Apply Changes. This should reset all the GPT info. You may need to reboot in order for Windows Disk Management to see the changes.

BTW, I am assuming that you don't wish to save your data.
 
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Highlight the first line (Disk 2 - 4.0 TB) and then click the GPT Off button. Then select Disk -> Apply Changes. This should reset all the GPT info. You may need to reboot in order for Windows Disk Management to see the changes.

BTW, I am assuming that you don't wish to save your data.
Yeah, the plan is to format the SSD's, and copy the data back onto them from the original HDD's.

Yes is Greyed out, I unticked "Save rollback Data".
View: https://imgur.com/JdvizRU
 

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Tick the "confirm" box.
Good news, that makes it so that the options in the Windows Storage Manager aren't greyed out anymore.

Now, I'm getting RAID formatting options that I don't want. And I've tried to find the RAID options in the BIOS to turn it off and I honestly couldn't find it. I've been trying to figure that out since updating the BIOS and seeing a message about RAID being enabled. But can't seem to find where to switch it. These are the options I have in the BIOS:
View: https://imgur.com/Q8UFb0w


Closest I've seen to something related to RAID: View: https://i.imgur.com/3uKJF6k.jpg


Root Advanced Options: View: https://imgur.com/8Bffevf
 
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I have no experience with Windows Storage Spaces.

AIUI, if the drives were RAID-ed in BIOS, then Windows would not have been presented with two individual physical SSDs. Therefore the RAID stuff must be happening in Windows, ie a software RAID.

Maybe someone else can shine a light on what is happening.
 

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I have no experience with Windows Storage Spaces.

AIUI, if the drives were RAID-ed in BIOS, then Windows would not have been presented with two individual physical SSDs. Therefore the RAID stuff must be happening in Windows, ie a software RAID.

Maybe someone else can shine a light on what is happening.
Actually, never mind, I got it. Not through BIOS though, made it a Dynamic Volume or whatever, created a new volume on Diskpart, and did a quick format. The other one didn't need all that though. Just let me make a new volume from the Storage Manager, and went through the wizard. Thanks very much for the help.