Temperature Monitoring Tools

[axissally]

Ok, who is lying here!

I read on these forums that core temp was best for C2D's, but the others are consistent with each other...Which one do I believe?

 

[mpjesse]

I don't know, but what I've heard is core temp is the best. That's what I use and it's in line w/ my Asus mobo monitor.

Good luck! lol

 

[NotAPimecone]

Supposedly, CoreTemp reads from a sensor that is part of the CPU, while the others read from a sensor on the motherboard. So CoreTemp should be more accurate for CPU Temperature, or that's what I've heard around here anyway. I've also heard that SpeedFan almost always has to be manually configured for each motherboard model to show correct readings.

Your CoreTemp reading does look way too high, though, considering it's idle and running at stock speed.

Are you just using the stock cooler? What kind of temps do you get under 100% load?

 

[bydesign]

IF that's idle temp it's way high. My E6600 OC to 3.4 GHz idles around 50C with core temp and maxed out under load at 58C with 8800GTX in the case. With my old 1900xtx it maxed out around 56C.

 

[NotAPimecone]

Well, it looks like idle, I've never seen SpeedFan not recognize when the CPU was in use (but I've only used SpeedFan on one computer, my current one), and in the screenshot it shows 0.8% usage, close enough.

And yeah, I have a 6400 OC'd to 3.4GHz with a Zalman 9700, with the Zalman and the case fans at minimum, it idles at ~35C, under full load (dual Orthos) it gets to ~51C with all fans cranked.

 

[Bache]

Is the ASUS PC Probe reading CPU temp at MB?

Or the internal/core CPU temp?

 

[axissally]

ok, thanks. Is a huge difference between them, almost 20 degrees...

I'll reseat it, it is my first time with an intel & i didn't use AS5 like usual & this push down clamping style heatsink took me by surprise.

So I'll reseat it with AS5 & see how it goes with core temp

Cheers.

Edit: Don't believe so Bache

 

[axissally]

meh, reseated it, now it is running hotter...will have more time tomorrow so I'll do it again....grrr.

 

[axissally]

before I go about pulling my pc apart again, a quick question...

Does AS5, or any thermal grease, have a use by date?

The stuff I'm using I've had for a number of years now. Would be be getting beyond its usefullness by now?

 

[NotAPimecone]

I don't know. I used some AS5 that I had from a build a year and a half ago in my latest, and it seems to work fine.

 

[godman]

I have the same problem.

You have to remember though that no temperature reading program is ever 100% accurate. 😱

The system should be in my sig, if you run coretemp, easytune and speedfan none of the results are the same. Though speedfan and easytune are around 1-2c different from each other coretemp shows a higher temp than both of them. At load (orthos+antivirus scan) core temp reports 47c whilst easytune and speedfan show temps around 30-33c....

(at stock frequencies with zalman 7700alcu )

I myself believe that easytune+speedfan are right though you should always consider the highest temperature reading. Coretemp shows the highest reading so you need to keep that in mind

 

[SidVicious]

Just confirm by using Intel's own Thermal Analysis Tool, you might be interesting in reading This article about Core Temp.

 

[axissally]

That Thermal Analysis Tool installed ok, but comes up with an error when I try to load.

I realised that I have only got AS3...i said it was a few years old 😛 Would that make a difference?

I have reseated it again...i cleaned it up all nice, put a even thin layer on, wiggled it a lil to settle it on, clamped it down evenly & was satisfied.

BUT...I still get high temps, I'm now getting higher ones than originally 🙁

Idl'ing Core temp is reporting 67 & 63. Speed fan is reporting 51. Asus Probe is reporting same as Speed fan.

What speed is the fan suppose to run at? It is running at 1775rpm. Is that normal or below normal speed?

Argh, first run with an intel & it's driving me nuts 🙁

 

[NotAPimecone]

Have you checked your voltage settings in the BIOS? Speedfan's saying (in the original picture, anyway) 1.44, which is way higher than it needs to be.

 

[axissally]

is saying 1.26 now. I just updated the bios, good thing is all 3 temp monitors are now reporting the same thing...bad news is the temps are still high...

Just for the record. I have a antec P180 case, I never use to with my amd, but i have all fans on high, it isn't an extremely hot day & ventilation is good. If i go out & get a Zalman 9700LED & they are still high I'll cry

 

[MAK-Daddy32]

There is a know issue with some of the stock HSF retentions system - search around and you can find a link or two from in the forumz. I was having the same problem with my stock HSF and an E6400, just replaced it with a Big Typhoon and my temps are MUCH better and the AS5 hasn't even had time to set properly.

I checked the stock HSF after I took it off and sure enough, even when "locked" they would slide out about 1/8 of an inch - causing improper contact.

Trash that stock HSF and get your temps down, I DID!

 

[Bache]

There is a know issue with some of the stock HSF retentions system - search around and you can find a link or two from in the forumz. I was having the same problem with my stock HSF and an E6400, just replaced it with a Big Typhoon and my temps are MUCH better and the AS5 hasn't even had time to set properly.

I checked the stock HSF after I took it off and sure enough, even when "locked" they would slide out about 1/8 of an inch - causing improper contact.

Trash that stock HSF and get your temps down, I DID!

Check out this link and scroll down the page. Look at those lousy weak stock HSF mountings.

http://www.intel.com/cd/channel/reseller/asmo-na/eng/products/box_processors/desktop/proc_dsk_p4/technical_reference/99345.htm

 

[axissally]

Well I got a Zalman CNPS9700LED. Thing is huge!!! While I hadn't had much sleep I went about putting this baby in. It wasn't as daunting as it looks.

The lil bottle of thermal grease/paint they give you barely makes it. The fan was hitting the copper fins, so I had to bend the fan mountings a lil to stop this.

Once in it lowered the temps considerably. Living in Brisbane, QLD it is summer so temps are never going to be great, but it is idling at 38-41 atm. Last night when it was cool it was down to 34. So I guess it is safe to say it is operating effectively. I also believe I have it on silent mode (really don't want to take my side off for a while 😛) so if I increased the fan speed the temps would go down more

I agree that that intel packaged heatsink/fan is crazy. After reading the above posts about it actually lifting off the cpu I figured this is probably happening to me, as I bent the lil plastic thing outwards & had to squeeze them back together to get it through the hole, so I probably ruined it a lil

Thanks & I'll see how this baby goes 😀