Temps at idle too high

[dokiiscool35]

Recently, my temps have gone through the roof.

I have a 860k cpu not OC and an asrock fm2a58m-vg3+ mobo.
Use the stock cooler, which has been cleaned and temps are just dying.
https://i.imgur.com/agKbVYS.jpg

I will be cleaning it after this post, turn the cooler around and re-apply thermal paste just to see if it somehow does anything.
It wasn't like this before, though it has been steadily increasing over the past couple of weeks.
Fan is loud, and idle temp still at 80c
It is pretty hot in the apartment, but not that hot. Also case has 3 intake fans and 1 that blows out.

I was thinking about getting a new cpu cooler, how much would that help though if i get this high temps?

 

[Barty1884]

The only accurate way to measure an Athlon's temps is via AMD OVerdrive and "Thermal Margin"

Essentially, you're looking at the headroom available, working down to 0'C opposed to increasing.
https://www.amd.com/en/technologies/amd-overdrive

Most software & especially BIOS readings are inaccurate.

The stock cooler is loud though, but that's just what it is. Not necessarily an indicator that it's working overly hard.

 

[MasterMadBones]

The Athlon X4 860K is from the Bulldozer family of CPUs and temperatures of those CPUs are misinterpreted by third party software (and BIOSes) all the time. Also, Temperatures tend to be higher than usual in BIOS because the CPU constantly runs at its full clock speed. On top of that, AMD's stock cooler for that CPU is actually quite horrible.


It's best that you install AMD Overdrive and tell us what the CPU's thermal margin is, both idle and under load. Anything over 10 degrees under load is fine, anything over 20 is excellent. Idle margins are less accurate so they are only a rough indication.

 

[dokiiscool35]

Alright, I have installed AMD Overdrive and the thermal margin looks to be good (I think)
Also, cleaned the cooler by removing the fan from the spreader, never done that and it was really really filthy and replaced thermal paste
https://i.imgur.com/ncgCxE6.png - idle
https://i.imgur.com/06BGwPS.png - while playing wow

From what you said, those are decent temps. I got really scared of the 80c idle, did not want to start any games due to fear of breaking the cpu.
Also, about the fan. It's damn loud, and I want to upgrade. I have a small mobo and I'm afraid to get the 212 EVO since it has a backplate.
I was looking into the CM Hyper TX3 EVO, no backplate and cheap. I won't be upgrading my pc anytime soon since only thing I do on my pc is play wow and mess around. Do you think the TX3 is a decent upgrade from stock? I just don't want it to be this loud.

 

[Barty1884]

Those are decent enough temps. 0'C is thermal shutdown. Throttling varies but, in my experience starts in the high single digits.

If the cooler is loud to you (it is, I used to have one), something like a 212 Evo or Cryorig H7 are solid, affordable options that are also quite impressive performers. The TX3 is an even more budget offering.

Depending on the price, the TX3 might make sense. The 212 EVO is frequently around $30, the H7 is $35 via Amazon (prime)
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/93Crxr/cryorig-cpu-cooler-h7

In the US, the TX3 and TX3 Evo don't appear to be readily availabel now..... and the ones that are, are >$50 easily.
Here in Canada, it's $24.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/t4fp99/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr910htx3g1

More appropriate pricing, but the Deepcool Gammaxx 300 has it beaten on price.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/JHV48d/deepcool-cpu-cooler-gammaxx300


Ultimately, they're all functional enough as a stock cooler replacement..... I'd just be wary of overpaying for a budget cooler.

 

[rjmaan]

I think your CPU is facing some issue with the fan that's why it is not cooling your system properly.

 

[Barty1884]

I think your CPU is facing some issue with the fan that's why it is not cooling your system properly.

For the stock cooler of the 860K, it's cooling the CPU exactly as intended.
Within safe operations ranges, at the expense of noise. Pre-Ryzen coolers on AMD chips were notoriously loud.

Sounds like it's doing it's job adequately and no more. Exactly what a stock cooler is designed to do.

 

[MasterMadBones]

Alright, I have installed AMD Overdrive and the thermal margin looks to be good (I think)
Also, cleaned the cooler by removing the fan from the spreader, never done that and it was really really filthy and replaced thermal paste
https://i.imgur.com/ncgCxE6.png - idle
https://i.imgur.com/06BGwPS.png - while playing wow

From what you said, those are decent temps. I got really scared of the 80c idle, did not want to start any games due to fear of breaking the cpu.
Also, about the fan. It's damn loud, and I want to upgrade. I have a small mobo and I'm afraid to get the 212 EVO since it has a backplate.
I was looking into the CM Hyper TX3 EVO, no backplate and cheap. I won't be upgrading my pc anytime soon since only thing I do on my pc is play wow and mess around. Do you think the TX3 is a decent upgrade from stock? I just don't want it to be this loud.

Barty1884 is right. 15 degrees is good at full load (such as prime95) but WoW is not taxing enough to push the CPU to its thermal limits.

 

[dokiiscool35]

Alright, I have installed AMD Overdrive and the thermal margin looks to be good (I think)
Also, cleaned the cooler by removing the fan from the spreader, never done that and it was really really filthy and replaced thermal paste
https://i.imgur.com/ncgCxE6.png - idle
https://i.imgur.com/06BGwPS.png - while playing wow

From what you said, those are decent temps. I got really scared of the 80c idle, did not want to start any games due to fear of breaking the cpu.
Also, about the fan. It's damn loud, and I want to upgrade. I have a small mobo and I'm afraid to get the 212 EVO since it has a backplate.
I was looking into the CM Hyper TX3 EVO, no backplate and cheap. I won't be upgrading my pc anytime soon since only thing I do on my pc is play wow and mess around. Do you think the TX3 is a decent upgrade from stock? I just don't want it to be this loud.

Barty1884 is right. 15 degrees is good at full load (such as prime95) but WoW is not taxing enough to push the CPU to its thermal limits.

I am testing it with prime95, https://i.imgur.com/O0USSFJ.png

Its so freaking weird, the temps are decent and fan is not that loud. Though case opened from both sides so makes sense. Cpu works decently now. From what I see at least. Graphics card suddently goofed and I get 95c and 100% fan speed. Opened another thread for it if anyone has some opinions or solutions

 

[MasterMadBones]

Staying with the CPU topic, you should run prime95 for at least half an hour, with the case closed.