TFT5030 Opinion & Questions

[Guest]

Ive got to say somethign to.
Flame, get over yourself. Ive read enough of your posts now that Im on the verge of blocking you(I know you dont care).
Its agrivating. You keep digging yourself deeper but making invalid statements, irrelevant comments, and saying irrevrent Crap.
Instead of putting the energy into finding out all the facts, you attenpt to sound like you know ALL. When you so clearly now DICK all.
The Quadro DCC, is a diffrent structure then you so apparently say it is, adn yes Im going to go with Elsa's website and not your false statemnets on this one.
If you even have the card, you clearly dont know what its true potential is. Its more evedent with each comment you make about it.

Some free advic. Stop digging your self deeper, and keep it real. A lot more is learned and accomplished by everyone when we stop trying to be a know-it-all, and try to learn something.

Comparing posts. I would take Gosharks advise over yours anyday. I have read many of his posts, and finally searched his for posts by him because Ive gotten so much out of each one.

To Goshark, thanks for sharing what you know. At the very least Im a more knowledgable consumer then before. You do know your monitors,


Render_effects

 

[flamethrower205]

Yes, I do not know all, but I certainly do know some. Can't understand why dumb douche bags like urself come in here and start bashing people like myself who have spent considerable time looking at LCD's and studying specs, etc. Do u have any idea how many times I have expained to people rt, contrast etc. But I guess, yeah, I don't know dick. Sorry, I don't spend time studying mine, since I spend it studying computers and LCD's. I just try to help people, and yes I do care. I do view those who I help as my freinds, and I would never give bad advice perposely to a freind. Do u have any idea how many people I have helped buy LCD's, and that they are happy with them? As for my Quadro DCC, and fuckwit would know that it is a slightly different Gf3, and yes I have used it to its full potential, especially w/ 3d s max R4.2 and Elsa maxtreme. I do disagree with what some people say, and argue with them, but if I am wrong, then I will take the advice. As of yet, I am to see how MVA is the best. I tell people advice using products that have proven themselves, the TFT7020 being one of them. I have tried many things with it (I own one), and yes, it is even good for graphics design imo. If you do not trust me, or simply have something against me, do not read my posts. I do not help those who I dislike.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

 

[Guest]

Uh....Flame, I would really stop talking as you are doing more damage to yourself. So in comparison, what would a response time of a CRT be in retrospect of an LCD.

Jack Burton is a great man...

 

[flamethrower205]

That I am not sure about, so I'm sure gosharks will be able to give u exact details. I will give u what I think though. First off, "response time" on a CRT definetly does vary, especially w/ fall time, since on my old 15" CRT, there is ghosting/ streaking. On newer monitors, this isn't so. As for the rise time, it really isn't noticeable, so that's not an issue. I would assume the response time of a CRT is less than single digit ms, if not measureable in nanoseconds.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

 

[imo]

what is the deal with running lcd at 60mhz, 70mhz and 75mhz?

what is the difference? why is lcd mean to run at 60mhz?

 

[GoSharks]

CRT’s are analog devices, thus they do not have the rise / fall and setup times that are inherent to digital devices.

In a CRT it depends on many factors, mainly the resolution and refresh rate you are running. The pixel clock of a monitor running at 1280 x 1024 at 85Hz is 157.5Mhz or 6.3 nano seconds. This is magnitudes faster than the best 25Miliseconds of an LCD panel.

Now you need to take into consideration that the phosphor luminance starts to degrade as soon as the beam moves to the next pixel.

Also you need to take into account the type of phosphor used. Older monitors that were not capable of running high enough refresh rates to reduce flicker, use long persistence phosphors. These phosphors were notorious for causing the ghosting affect. Today almost everyone uses a standard p22 or B22 phosphor that is considered a medium – short precipitance.

All else equal, bottom line CRT’s is magnitudes faster than fastest LCD. If you are serious about games and have the space CRT’s IMHO are still much better than LCD’s. CRTs also have better color saturation.


To answer IMO question.

LCDs do not refresh like CRT’s, The LCD stays on the entire frame, thus LCDs do not suffer from the flicker problems related to running CRTs at a low refresh rate.

Jim Witkowski
Chief Hardware Engineer
Cornerstone / Monitorsdirect.com


Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

 

[flamethrower205]

hehe, 6.3 nanoseconds is only a tad faster than an LCD Hmm, my CRT must be of the old type, cause it ghosts more than an LCD w/ 50ms response time!

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

 

[GoSharks]

Flame

You need to look up the difference between a nano (One billionth) of a second and a milli (One thousandth) of a second.

Lets see the difference between one thousand and one billion,this is big in my book.



Jim at http://www.monitorsdirect.com

 

[flamethrower205]

I was bein sarcastic- notice the smilie face. I know the difference between the two.

Only if you let me see the Umpa Lumpa- Homer Simpson.

 

[Boots_old]

Digital input does not improve responstime, so I have a hard time imagining, the blurr will disapear with DVI. Maybe it would help to go down to 60MHz, so the last "shot" is not as strong anymore, when the new one is shot? Shot = illumination.

 

[Boots_old]

You monitor has an operating frequensy, and if that is set to 85Hz, and your videocard puts out 170, you will get 2 half pictures. A fast videocard can not make the monitor produce morefull pictures than the operating frequnsy permits. You can even get three (or more) parts of pictures in one redraw. Also a picture can start at the lowest lines and then continue on the upper lines, just to be changed the next split second.

 

[Boots_old]

I have not read the mentioned reviews, but it was a long time since, I stopped paying attention to CNet reviews. I was to often disappointed by their believing in manufacturers specs and statements.

 

[Guest]

Wow, this is an old thread. Why was it brought back from the dead...

Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.

 

[Boots_old]

Because I sorted the topics in order of views. And this one has gotten mighty many views. And because it has not been touched for a long time, it can still be viewed by a lot of people seeking advice on the mentioned monitors. Also, I myself tend to search a forum, before making questions. And for those others, who have the same tendensies, I thought I would provide this service. Well, actually it wasn't all for my good heart. I also looked at those threads to learn, and I am just not good at letting information wich I find wrong stand as truth. Because, if noone argues the validity of the statements they will by most people be considdered truths. OK now, peace to all. I will probably not dig up any more old threads - but that isn't a promisse 😉

 

[Guest]

Hehe, I go away for just a few weeks, and this happens! JK 😉

Seriously, the only thing I wanted to comment on was that I have a TFT7020 and that it performs really well in FPS games that I play. I do have it connected to the DVI connector, and never even played with the analog connector, so I don't know what the actual difference is. I don't experience any ghosting when playing virtually any FPS game. I obviously don't know if the 5030 has the same performance as this, so I can't comment on that.

Ron

 

[flamethrower205]

Bet u $5 a 170T performs better.

Sig of the week.