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vijosef said:
There are no games justifying a new gaming processor. And this one doesn't has AI support, so it has no future.
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do you know how silly this is?

You do know what "AI" support means right? of course not, you typed that out. AI support means someone in marketing realized "AI" is hot right now so they stuck a sticker on a box that says "AI Support". No CPU is going to have "AI support" in any meaningful way. Because AI requires floating point mathematics. your CPU is AWFUL at floating point mathematics (yes even the ones who say "AI Support"). You know what's awesome at floating point mathematics? GPUs. You know what the 7800x3D doesn't have? an on board GPU.

So if you see a CPU with "AI Support" stuck on the box, that means it has an iGPU. and before you think this makes them "great" at AI support, know those iGPUs are dogshit at the level of floating point math needed to "support" AI application. You'd need a real GPU in the 4090 class to begin to support actual LLM AI applications, and to be honest. NO ONE will actually be running their own AI applications, at most you'll be accessing an AI application hosted on the net. and you know what you don't need to do that?

-have something with "AI Support"

So yeah. This is a marketing term that means little to nothing unless your online ID is Vedal and you are trying to purchase multiple RTX 4090s to support your AI Chatbot vtuber otherwise known as "Neuro"; if you're Vedal sure you might be interested in something that says "AI Support" but unless you're running your own AI you'll never need it. (and almost no one will be running their own AI for at least another decade)
 
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vijosef said:
There are no games justifying a new gaming processor. And this one doesn't has AI support, so it has no future.
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Please

Every day someone is building a PC. Today, if you're building a gaming PC, and you're not looking at this as your CPU, you're crazy.

Nothing comes near it except the 7900X3D, 14700K (trailing in performance, more expensive), and maybe the 13600K (maybe far behind in performance, but a good price. For a lower end build it's fine)

No, there are no games justifying a new processor, if you already have one. That performs well.
There is no such thing as AI support.
This CPU has the same future as the nearest competitors. A long future.
 
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I think of it more akin to buying an RTX 20 series card for ray tracing. New technology, nearly zero adoption.

AI dedicated silicon is already hitting mobile. Desktop is soon to follow, but it won't be absolutely mandatory for many years to come.
 
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Eximo said:
I think of it more akin to buying an RTX 20 series card for ray tracing. New technology, nearly zero adoption.

AI dedicated silicon is already hitting mobile. Desktop is soon to follow, but it won't be absolutely mandatory for many years to come.
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Yes, and it's not useful yet. But arguing an actually useful CPU is not worth anyone's time was the mistake the poster made. Very arrogant to say that about the 7800X3D.

It's true it's not going to be a contender in "AI capable" tasks, whatever that is going to mean some day when it hits the market, but it's not on the market yet.

As an example, the eagerly anticipated game Manor Lords has as much to do with "AI support" or AI in general as does a cheese toastie. And it would play great with a 7800X3D. Which is good news for anyone buying a new gaming PC today, and even better news for anyone wishing to play Manor Lords.
No difference for anyone waiting for "AI support".

So why poo poo the CPU?
 
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35below0 said:
It's true it's not going to be a contender in "AI capable" tasks, whatever that is going to mean some day when it hits the market, but it's not on the market yet.
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That's the point. Had you used an AI to think what your brain cannot, it would had explained to you that the argument is that is not worth buying a processor which does not meet the minimum requirements for AI announced by Microsoft, which are already on sale in processors like the Core Ultra 7 processor 155H.
 
Please bless me with a Pc Part Picker list of a build that will meet the minimum requirements for.... er. Something. That totally exists.

I don't need to consult AI to know a CPU that meets whatever requirements Microsoft spelled out does not exist. If you want to wait for one, please yourself.

There is no point. You're taking a massive dump on a real and usable CPU and i guess advising people to instead buy a laptop or wait for the next generation of socket, CPU and motherboard to come out.

Win 11 is currently expected to recieve updates through 2034. Possibly at some point it will require some AI capability but more than likely not. Certainly not soon enough to render the current generation of CPUs worthless.

Face it, the CPU in question represents good value, good performance and has longevity. And despite your best efforts at being a clown, you have nothing to offer in favor of the upcoming intels. Including an actual chip people can buy or an OS that supports it.
This is obviously very early technology that people can dip their toe in, but are not ready nor eager to cannonball into. After a generation or two, things might move in that direction.

Are you seriously going to insult me for thinking you're nuts to tell people not to buy a great gaming CPU today, so that they can buy something probably cool and ok 2-3 years from now?

Please.
 
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