The BSA Rejects the Current Stop Online Piracy Act

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rajohns08

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now the gov't is trying to over-regulate and kill the technology sector? are they ever gonna learn all they do is slow down innovation?
 

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Software pirating will NEVER be full-proof. Period. They just need to stop trying.

Unless we all go to a cloud, then maybe it'll happen. But we're years ahead of that. For God Sakes, some people still have DIAL-UP!!!
 

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"bad actors that profit from selling copies of software and other works they do not own."
(Emphasis added.)

Cool.

So how about we put the next logical step into law- prosecuting these guys and not Joe Average Guy (or grandma) for downloading 5 songs?

That way, we can avoid stupid lawsuits which jam up the courts, and take down the automatic settlement websites.

But if Congress is still trying to get this passed, well, there's probably no hope for that for a while.
 

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[citation][nom]rajohns08[/nom]now the gov't is trying to over-regulate and kill the technology sector? are they ever gonna learn all they do is slow down innovation?[/citation]
Would you call people who pirate software innovators in the technology sector? Um... let's hope not. Businesses who innovate in the technology sector don't pirate software, teenagers in their parent's basements pirate software. And that's ok for commercial software (I'm thinking Adobe), the problem lies with pirating video games- which really hurts the industry.
 

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I must say, this Rober Holleyman guy doesn't sound like a complete douche.

I wish people like him were running the RIAA and MPAA.
 

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[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]Would you call people who pirate software innovators in the technology sector? Um... let's hope not. Businesses who innovate in the technology sector don't pirate software, teenagers in their parent's basements pirate software. And that's ok for commercial software (I'm thinking Adobe), the problem lies with pirating video games- which really hurts the industry.[/citation]

Businesses, in particular the larger one, pirate all the time. The difference is when they get caught they pay a small fine/some licensing fees, the lawyers argue it out in court, and its all swept under the rug. On top of that the media/software industries are not losing money due to pirating (look at any unbiased report, not the usual BS bought and paid for and parroted by the politicians), rather its a scapegoat used to justify putting through draconian laws.
 

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@11796 Not going to argue on enterprise or business software, but you'll find in games that critics and review sites do just as much to kill the industry as what software pirates do. With equal advertising you notice that a game that is rated higher will sell a lot more copies than a game that is rated poorly. If the gaming industry wants to do well they need to quit putting out crappy games.
 

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Pic or it didn't happen... does piracy and sales are mutually exclusive?

For commercial software, you're spot on...how many teenage can afford those commercial softwares?
 

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This is about taking control of the internet, pirating is just the excuse they need to do it. This WILL pass eventually no doubt.
 

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[citation][nom]theskyrier[/nom]Does this mean we are all safe? Or is the Bill still going through congress?[/citation]
It's still going....until it's voted down.
 

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[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]Would you call people who pirate software innovators in the technology sector? Um... let's hope not. Businesses who innovate in the technology sector don't pirate software, teenagers in their parent's basements pirate software. And that's ok for commercial software (I'm thinking Adobe), the problem lies with pirating video games- which really hurts the industry.[/citation]

best point ever made, besides the video game stuff.
adobe doenst make money off of indaviduals who use the software, its tho pros who use it for work, you know, people who make a liveing off selling the work they do in those programs. hell its the only reason adobe is the standard software is that everyone has a coppy and learns to use it when young, and they go pro, what do they use? software they never seen before, or what they are use to.

video games on the other hand... piracy use to be even easier, you rent the software, and at the counter, they sold the blank floppy discs.

and a fact is that probably more people pirate a game on xbox than on the pc (some places have the statistic at 30+% pirate on xbox) compare that to the people who buy pc games because you cant play online (easily) without buying a coppy.

[citation][nom]cumi2k4[/nom]Pic or it didn't happen... does piracy and sales are mutually exclusive? For commercial software, you're spot on...how many teenage can afford those commercial softwares?[/citation]

2000+ for adobe creative suite
8000+ for maya
3ds max is what 500ish for new versions

anyone for a non commercial use shouldn't have to pay, i mean really, how many people for a non $ have any of that software to begin with? students sure, but how many house holds?

and for non comertial use, they still put out a home version of some software that is way easier than the pro stuff, and people would still buy it just because its easier.

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personaly i love the quote "bad actors that profit from selling copies of software and other works they do not own." bring piracy laws to their original meaning, stopping people from selling the product.
 

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[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]Would you call people who pirate software innovators in the technology sector? Um... let's hope not. Businesses who innovate in the technology sector don't pirate software, teenagers in their parent's basements pirate software. And that's ok for commercial software (I'm thinking Adobe), the problem lies with pirating video games- which really hurts the industry.[/citation]

so the BSA, Google, and Facebook dislike this bill because it prevents kids from getting free video games? hmmm that's pretty unlikely so you might want to ask yourself WHY they don't like the bill. As the BSA says...the current proposal does not "balance key innovation, privacy and security considerations with the need to thwart the threat rogue websites pose."
 

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[citation][nom]11796pcs[/nom]Would you call people who pirate software innovators in the technology sector? Um... let's hope not. Businesses who innovate in the technology sector don't pirate software, teenagers in their parent's basements pirate software. And that's ok for commercial software (I'm thinking Adobe), the problem lies with pirating video games- which really hurts the industry.[/citation]

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Honestly, we pay time and again for the same movies. How many times do we have to buy the rights to a movie? I'm pretty sure we've more than paid for the shitty movies and music that get downloaded.
 

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[citation][nom]JOSHSKORN[/nom]Software pirating will NEVER be full-proof. Period. They just need to stop trying.Unless we all go to a cloud, then maybe it'll happen. But we're years ahead of that. For God Sakes, some people still have DIAL-UP!!![/citation]
They should stop trying??? If henry ford had stopped trying to improve his product, we could all go out and buy a 2012 model T...top speed about 30mph.
 
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