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First off, I'd like to say thank you to all of you for your great information.

Second of all, I'd like for you all to give me a nice warm welcome to the Dark Side (ATI) 😀 . I should be receiving my X1900XT today.

I'm coming from a 6600 GT, and just had a couple of questions for you guys:
How big of a difference in performance do you think I'll notice (mostly HL2/CS:S)?

After I uninstall and run the cleanup on my existing Nvidia drivers, should I install the drivers that are coming with the card, or just download the latest from the ATI website?

Though I don't plan on overclocking right out of the box, I would like to have the option available to me. What should I download / install, and in what, if any order should they be installed? ATI Tools / CCC / Overclocker Tools / etc confused the crap out of me. I'd like to be able to change voltage, clock speeds obviously, and fan speed.

Thanks again for all your help! <3

-Ryu
 
I felt the same way when I got my first ATI card. Went from a FX5900 to a 9800 Pro. Frame rates were way better in some games but image quality was way better too(especially Halo). However now I'm back to Nvidia since it was the better of the cards when I got it.

Just do a quick search on google for OC tools. I forget which one I used.
 
I felt the same way when I got my first ATI card. Went from a FX5900 to a 9800 Pro. Frame rates were way better in some games but image quality was way better too(especially Halo). However now I'm back to Nvidia since it was the better of the cards when I got it.

Just do a quick search on google for OC tools. I forget which one I used.
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Where was my warm welcome :cry:

-Ryu
 
From 6600 to 1900 is a huge jump - expect to use AA and AF to the max along with HDr (if your system is up to spec)

Use Driver Cleaner Pro to remove Nvidia drivers and I'd suggest using the latest ATi drivers on the web as they are more "refined"

For OC'ing you'll want to get ATiTool 0.25 beta 14 - although OCing such a fine card doesn't bring much to the party...
 
good man. welcome to the dark side, you won't regret it. using the cs:s stress test facility i get about 140 or so with 1920 x 1200 res and everthing maxed. one thing to note is that on militia it drops to about 40's and on dod it is about 50-low 60's. HDR takes it's toll at high res's.

i'll assume you play at 1280 x 1024 i don't know what fps you'll get. tell you what i'll just change my settings and test it just so you can get a comparison when you play it on your system.

EDIT: i lie only got 130 at my usual settings. as far as the other res i got about 166. might not be what you'd get as im scaling down. least that gives you an idea of what to expect.
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I play in game with 1024x768, and on the stress test with all the settings on extremely low (autoexec config for FPS) I score barely over 100 :cry:

I can't wait! Card is at my house waiting for me 😀

-Ryu
 
Yes, yes, Driver Cleaner and ATI Tool. Definitely get the latest drivers from ATI. Be sure to check the disk that comes with the card though for other utils like DVD player and such.
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I saw some discussions about the different versions on some forums today. Is the link you provided the correct and/or best version of ATI Tool for the x1900?

-Ryu
 
Dark Side, damm, now you tell me. 😀
I thought I saw the light, must of just been the headlights of some truck.

Like S7A88Y said, give the Omega drivers a go.

http://www.omegadrivers.net/
 
Looks like ATI Tool Beta 14 is the way to go for x1900 users. I just want to be able to overclock sometime down the road, and to control the fan speed/monitor temperature.

-Ryu
 
agreed, the built in driver oc works well... atitool does let you at fan speeds and voltage but the built in one is still servicable.

ati also has their new video converter that screams through converting/compressing video to different formats... uses the gpu to do it, toms had a small writeup on it, shows huge perf. gain

oh, and dark side? And here i thought this was light! (wonder if Darth Vader thought that?...)
 
Well I installed it and the game looks amazing!

Only problem is my FPS isn't anything special :cry:

2.8GHz Dual Core Pentium OC'd to about 3.0GHz is probably what's holding me back, and as much as I want to upgrade (and can afford to), I've got 2GB of memory that's DDR2 that I can' carry over.

Suggestions?

-Ryu
 
what fps #'s are not "special"? did you want triple digits? For me if it stays near 60 and looks as good as these do then I am happy as all get out. (heck, even 40's look good to me in FEAR w/ all of it on!)
 
i know your looking for perfection but i would be surprised if you werent getting ove 100fps in cs:s. the minimum is probably 80's on maps like compound which has lots of open spaces. what fps do you get?
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Depends on the map.

On maps like inferno it goes as low as 30s :cry:

I ran 3dmark06 and scored 5200+ with a CPU score of 1405 eeek lol.

-Ryu
 
Thanks my friend as do you! I tell ya what in cs source the performance over my old 6800 le nvidia is night and day. I am running it currently at 1600x1200 with all shit turned up 2x aa 8xaf getting 80 - 250 fps depending on the map and it usually is around 150 fps as an average. I love the new build!
 
agreed, w/o any oc'ing this machine screams... and I am currently moving up the clock ladder seeing how far I can push this w/ just the stock air cooling, so far very impressive. 3d mark: 06-5.5k 05-10.5k so far...
 
My X2 4400+ on stock gets ~48ºC on full load, though atm there is some cable mess in there.

I'm OC'ing mine to 2.5Ghz gradually.. but if it ever hits 55ºC I'm backing off...
 
you know, off the top of my head I think it was around 55 under full load and 40-45 idle. but I havent messed w/ it all this week (besides fireing up bf2 each night) and I am at work right now... I so want to be with my "baby" but duty calls... (or doodie depending on how you look at it 😉 I could be wrong about the temps and will look tonight to confirm what i have said... will edit if wrong... :)

haven't done much beyond the asus AI overclocking to 3% and clocked the video up like 10Mhz on core and mem. Just to test the water and let the system burn in a bit before I do anything harsh. I want to ensure that all is stable before I start kissing the sky. Have only had this thing like 2 weeks. once burn in is done (perhaps this weekend) I will start messing w/ everything and seeing where this puppy will go.

EDIT: ya, i am prb wrong on my temps above... will check tonight to find out.
 
I've decided to hold off on a CPU / Mobo upgrade until the latest AMD stuff comes on in May/June. I think I can survive until then lol.

-Ryu
 
Well I would be careful on the X2 temps bra, I heard that they aren't rated to go up high like the old xp's. You should check to see what the temp ratings are first before you even play with that. I think 55 is way too hot for the x2s and optys. I could be wrong though. I'm nervous about ocin my opteron. It is rock solid and fast as hell!
 
ya, i'm just pulling those #s outta by butt, they are prb wrong and will dbl check em tonight cause after i posted them i read a bit about what others were getting and see that I was prb thinking about my older xp (xp2700 @2.4ghz on air) machine i have oc'd w/ those temps. 😉
 
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