The Immigration Crisis

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musical marv

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Do you think in your own opinion this Immigration Crisis we are confronted with now was conspired by Obama for political reasons regarding the children coming from Central American countries and why?
 


This subject was a problem way before Obama ever took office! Marv

 
Most likely starting with good old Bush Sr.

 
How do we go about finding a solution to this problem now?

 


1. Making legal immigration easier
2. Making the penalties for illegals, both for individuals and the companies that hire them, much, much tougher.
 
May I add 3. Learn to live with the reality. No-ones country is their own any more and most immigrants willl be there to contribute and improve their own lives.

Sadly that also means my country has the largest Fifth Column in history in an almost inevitible war. Anyone under the age of fifty wlil probably need to Google that phrase.
 


It is not a matter of whether immigrants can and do contribute to improving their own lives and the country as a whole. However, there is no country on this planet that does not specify how and why a person can immigrate and become a legal citizen of that country. Heck, America was founded with the underlying principal that welcomed immigrants, and here's the catch, providing that they entered LEGALLY and BECAME AN AMERICAN CITIZEN. But that is the primary issue here, President Obama is not performing his duties as President by enforcing existing immigration laws.

Ever read the immigration laws for the Netherlands? How about what it takes to become a legal citizen of Saudi Arabia? With this issue specifically, the irony of it all is that Mexico's own immigration laws require immediate imprisonment and deportation of all peoples entering Mexico illegally.
 


I'll add four more:

3. Actually securing the border. This will likely involve the National Guard being stationed at the border and possibly the active duty military going into Mexico (with Mexico's permisson/assistance) to rout out MS-13, the Zetas, the Sineloa cartel, etc.

4. Mandatory proof of citizenship whenever anybody goes to collect any sort of government benefits, at the voting booth, and at other point-of-service locations when ID is usually asked for (hospitals, banks, encounters with police.) If somebody does not come back as legal, ICE gets a call and the person gets deported if they are here illegally.

5. Denying of any government benefits to aliens.

6. If you do immigrate here, you have to be a productive member of society until you complete the naturalization process or your immigration visa will be revoked and you will be deported.

That should solve the issue. The illegals here will largely head home since they won't have a reason to stay since very few will risk to employ them (#2) and they can't get any sort of gimme benefits (#4 and #5.) They're free to try to come back through the legal way but they have to pass background checks, an immigration physical, and then go through the naturalization process. My personal opinion is that we can't just do the current thing which is to give free welfare to anybody who wants it as we are already very broke with more than $17,000,000,000,000 in debt. . We also don't want a bunch of people in gangs and with criminal backgrounds coming in either. If you are an honest person who wants to come here to work, sure, but you have to actually work as we won't give you any welfare.
 
I don't think the whole thing is an Obama conspiracy but I hold him personally responsible for the thousands of central american kids he ushers over the boarder every day. On the contrary, more people have been deported under his presidency than any other. Go figure.
 
Obama is the king of deportation you know this I am sure.

 
There is no immigration crisis. We do, however, have a crisis where people from other countries are illegally entering our country, consuming our resources, sending money they earn out of our country, and influencing manufacturers and retailers to print in Spanish along with English.
 
Pretty much all Western nations have immigration problems. Australia, Europe and the UK are dealing with illegal immigrants from Middle Eastern nations, particularly Afghanistan and Pakistan. The US is dealing with immigrants from South and Central America. Populations have always been moving throughout history, this is nothing new.

I wouldnt say America is having a crisis simply because its nothing more than what everyone else is dealing with. If anything I would say the Mediterranean countries of the EU (Italy and Greece are the landing sites for Middle Eastern immigrants, and their already quite desperate financially) and the UK have it worst.


oh god forbid you have to send American money out of the country, I mean, the fact that you guys own nearly all global services and are the standard currency of big business means that almost none comes back!
Seriously though, I'm in Australia and I have to buy my Steam games in $US. Your sucking in plenty of everyone elses cash as well.
 
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