Question The last AM4 Hurrah ?

[das_stig]

So after upgrading my sons and my own GPU's to RTX4070's, paying this off over 6 months interest free, time to think about the CPU/motherbpard/RAM/NVMe SSD combination, we normally upgrade very 5 years+, so we get our mony's worth.

Yes, moving to AM5 would nice, but was thinking of a cheap AM4 stop gap for 12-18 months and looking at 7-5800, hopefully AM5 build prices will come down a little as we save for mid tier models.

We are similar specs wise, he has Asus Prime x370 Pro, Ryzen 1700x, 32GB DDR4-3200 while I have the Asus Prime X470-Pro Ryzen 5-2600, 32GB DDR4-3200 with the latest's BIOSs.

He plays DCS, COD, Starfeld, Elite, the usual fast paced shooters, me I old school and like strategy, MMOs and World Of Warships.

So should we ..

1. Soldier on and just save?
2. 7-5800 is a good idea and resell for a few quid later?
3. Sell one of my sons lungs and just go mad in Amazon.

 

[Colif]

not looking at 5800x3d?

i upgraded from a 3600xt to a 5800x3d for similar reasons. Easier to extend its life and save for the future.

 

[das_stig]

Possibly, but an X3D is £100 extra and then you start to think is it worth it?

 

[DSzymborski]

Possibly, but an X3D is £100 extra and then you start to think is it worth it?

If it's a gaming build, yes.

 

[drea.drechsler]

Possibly, but an X3D is £100 extra and then you start to think is it worth it?

If the purpose for this upgrade is to maximize gaming performance it's definitely worth it as it's still one of the best gaming CPU's going. And the price is a bargain compared to the cost of complete platform change that needs motherboard and memory along with CPU.

 

[Colif]

Depending on the game, it can still give AM5 processors a run for money, as well as Intel. Can't beat a 7800x3d but then that replaced it.

I bought it because it was the last hurrah for AM4.

 

[Order 66]

Possibly, but an X3D is £100 extra and then you start to think is it worth it?

If you have the budget and can go nuts, I would go for the 7800x3d, since the 7950x3d has issues with task scheduling and core parking. It even beats the 14900k by a few percent.

 

[Kona45primo]

Wait as long as you can and buy a 5700x3d (if it's released by then) or 5800x3d. Or upgrade to a 5700x on both. Should be a big jump in performance.

 

[Colif]

The 5700X3D boosts up to 4.10 GHz compared to the 4.50 GHz of the 5800X3D

AMD Readies Ryzen 7 5700X3D and Ryzen 5 5500X3D Socket AM4 Processors

AMD Socket AM4 users are in for a treat, as the company plans two more processor models in the Ryzen 5000X3D series, according to chi11eddog, a reliable source with AMD leaks. Although based on the older "Zen 3" microarchitecture, these chips feature 3D Vertical Cache technology, which helps...

www.techpowerup.com

guess it depends on prices. Odd neither has lvl 1 cache... must have needed space for other things

next thing you know AMD release a 3700x3d just for fun.

 

[Kona45primo]

New review of the old 2xxx series CPU's compared to modern. Tested on a 4090, so results are not like for like.

View: https://youtu.be/cKgDrW5H5go?si=VTU1NkpSpXCK2UWl

 

[das_stig]

I got the 5800X3D and yeh, you can see the old 2600 was holding back the RTX frame rates, also decided to get a more powerful PSU, just to be on the safe side.

 

[geofelt]

The types of games you play favor a processor with fast single thread performance.
Run the cpu=Z bench on each and look at the single thread performance rating.
1700x should score about 462:

CPU-Z Benchmark for AMD Ryzen 7 1700X (1T) - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

Best CPU performance - 64-bit - December 2023

valid.x86.fr

R5-2600 should be about 424.

I would think that a 5800X at 640 would be a simple and good upgrade.
Upgrade your bios before mounting the new processor.

I am not enthused with the X3D variants. Yes, it is good for gaming, but not as effective as the non X3d variants in other tasks.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

Was watching a video on this earlier. Take a look at the 5700x. Yes not as flashy, but it appears a working 1700x is worth 60-70 if you sell it on eBay. So basically you upgrade for about 100 bucks a pop and basically 70-80% faster across the board. No brainer.

If you’ve got the coin the x3d CPUs are better but you are talking about an extra 100 each or so.