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Which means, "Thanks in Advance". It's weird, to me. I've seen it in
numerous places all over the internet and it seems to me to be a way of not
having to actually take the time to sign back on to the forum and actually
thank people individually for their help. I believe it makes sense as a
time-saving measure, which is what it seems to be, but isn't there something
a little rude about it? I'm not pointing fingers here, merely raising a
point of debate. It seems to be a way for a non-forum-regular to ask for
help, assistance, whatever, but then pre-emptively discharge their
obligation of courtesy to those who have helped.

That's just how it seems to me... Any thoughts? Any other internet
standards that are bothersome or seem rude to you all?
 
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"DoomMunky" <MunkyNorth@literotica.org> wrote in message
news:rgnvc.19129$Tn6.17993@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Which means, "Thanks in Advance". It's weird, to me. I've seen it in
> numerous places all over the internet and it seems to me to be a way of
not
> having to actually take the time to sign back on to the forum and actually
> thank people individually for their help. I believe it makes sense as a
> time-saving measure, which is what it seems to be, but isn't there
something
> a little rude about it? I'm not pointing fingers here, merely raising a
> point of debate. It seems to be a way for a non-forum-regular to ask for
> help, assistance, whatever, but then pre-emptively discharge their
> obligation of courtesy to those who have helped.
>
> That's just how it seems to me... Any thoughts? Any other internet
> standards that are bothersome or seem rude to you all?

I believe that the old "Thanks in advance" quip is more of a way for the
questioner to thank the people who have already taken the time to read the
question whether that person is going to reply or not. Many times, I see
people who use the "TIA" line come back later to give thanks again.

I don't think it is a time saving measure at all.
 
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"DoomMunky" <MunkyNorth@literotica.org> wrote in message
news:rgnvc.19129$Tn6.17993@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Which means, "Thanks in Advance". It's weird, to me. I've seen it in
> numerous places all over the internet and it seems to me to be a way of
not
> having to actually take the time to sign back on to the forum and actually
> thank people individually for their help. I believe it makes sense as a
> time-saving measure, which is what it seems to be, but isn't there
something
> a little rude about it? I'm not pointing fingers here, merely raising a
> point of debate. It seems to be a way for a non-forum-regular to ask for
> help, assistance, whatever, but then pre-emptively discharge their
> obligation of courtesy to those who have helped.
>
> That's just how it seems to me... Any thoughts? Any other internet
> standards that are bothersome or seem rude to you all?


I use "Thanks in advance for any help" as a way of suggesting to any one who
might have knowledge I'm seeking, that I will be grateful if they take the
time to reply.

So, no, with this usage I do not consider it rude in any way.

From your post I see that yes, it might be misinterpreted, but that's not
what I, for one, intend.

/Andy
 
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DoomMunky wrote:
> Which means, "Thanks in Advance". It's weird, to me. I've seen it in
> numerous places all over the internet and it seems to me to be a way
> of not having to actually take the time to sign back on to the forum
> and actually thank people individually for their help. I believe it
> makes sense as a time-saving measure, which is what it seems to be,
> but isn't there something a little rude about it? I'm not pointing
> fingers here, merely raising a point of debate. It seems to be a way
> for a non-forum-regular to ask for help, assistance, whatever, but
> then pre-emptively discharge their obligation of courtesy to those
> who have helped.
>
> That's just how it seems to me... Any thoughts? Any other internet
> standards that are bothersome or seem rude to you all?

I percieve it to mean "Thank you, for your In Advance effort, 'till next
time..." and then I thank someone for their response(s). TIA is meant
as a nicety, not as a slap in the face.
MHO, McG.
 
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 23:13:58 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>DoomMunky wrote:

>I percieve it to mean "Thank you, for your In Advance effort, 'till
next
>time..." and then I thank someone for their response(s). TIA is
meant
>as a nicety, not as a slap in the face.
>MHO, McG.
>

Right, I agree totally...I have no plans to NOT congratulate someone
who helps me with a PC issue, etc. just because I've ended my request
for help/info with "TIA."

Faustus


Dave King -- Faustus
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Yep. "Thanks in advance" is basically an extended version of "please,"
or a shortened version of, "would you please do this for me? I'd
appreciate it if you did."
 
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 16:30:15 GMT, "DoomMunky"
<MunkyNorth@literotica.org> wrote:

>Which means, "Thanks in Advance". It's weird, to me. I've seen it in
>numerous places all over the internet and it seems to me to be a way of not
>having to actually take the time to sign back on to the forum and actually
>thank people individually for their help. I believe it makes sense as a
>time-saving measure, which is what it seems to be, but isn't there something
>a little rude about it? I'm not pointing fingers here, merely raising a
>point of debate. It seems to be a way for a non-forum-regular to ask for
>help, assistance, whatever, but then pre-emptively discharge their
>obligation of courtesy to those who have helped.
>
>That's just how it seems to me... Any thoughts? Any other internet
>standards that are bothersome or seem rude to you all?
>
I do the same thing when requesting help =- however, I always go back
and thank people individually, or the thread as a whole.

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> Yep. "Thanks in advance" is basically an extended version of "please,"
> or a shortened version of, "would you please do this for me? I'd
> appreciate it if you did."

That I did not know! The reason it seemed rude to me was that trolling
other newsgroups, especially binaries forums, yeilds a great number of
seeming one-timers who are merely there to get that one thing that they want
without becoming part of the board community. It seemed to me like a way to
drop in and be "courteous" but have an out in terms of never being involved
with the others on the board...

But, as it seems to everyone here, it is actually a courtesy phrase that
does not end the exchange of thanks or further courtesies. That, I think,
is a good thing. (robot voice) Change of perspective....[chunk!] complete.
 
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DoomMunky wrote:

>>Yep. "Thanks in advance" is basically an extended version of "please,"
>>or a shortened version of, "would you please do this for me? I'd
>>appreciate it if you did."
>
>
> That I did not know! The reason it seemed rude to me was that trolling
> other newsgroups, especially binaries forums, yeilds a great number of
> seeming one-timers who are merely there to get that one thing that they want
> without becoming part of the board community. It seemed to me like a way to
> drop in and be "courteous" but have an out in terms of never being involved
> with the others on the board...
>
> But, as it seems to everyone here, it is actually a courtesy phrase that
> does not end the exchange of thanks or further courtesies. That, I think,
> is a good thing. (robot voice) Change of perspective....[chunk!] complete.
>
>

Some people find it annoying that a thread consists of
- Could you X?
- Yes
- Thanks!
- You're welcome!

Instead, they see it better as:
- Could you X? Thanks in advance!
- Yes. You're welcome.

This cuts down the chattiness and the "Thank you" and "you're welcome"
replies.

Also, not everyone is able to express their thanks in a timely manner.
How long do you wait for a thank you? Some people expect one quickly.
Others expect them eventually. As forums are not a realtime exchange,
people want to express their "thanks" up front to make SURE that a
"thank you" gets said.

Personally, I like "Thanks in Advance." This sets a civil tone from the
first message.
 
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DoomMunky wrote:
>>Yep. "Thanks in advance" is basically an extended version of "please,"
>>or a shortened version of, "would you please do this for me? I'd
>>appreciate it if you did."
>
>
> That I did not know! The reason it seemed rude to me was that trolling
> other newsgroups, especially binaries forums, yeilds a great number of
> seeming one-timers who are merely there to get that one thing that they want
> without becoming part of the board community. It seemed to me like a way to
> drop in and be "courteous" but have an out in terms of never being involved
> with the others on the board...
>
> But, as it seems to everyone here, it is actually a courtesy phrase that
> does not end the exchange of thanks or further courtesies. That, I think,
> is a good thing. (robot voice) Change of perspective....[chunk!] complete.
>
>

I also think it was bad form, in the early days of the net, to waste
bandwith just to say thanks for your help.

Neil.
 
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