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[Dave8671]

Since the PS3 is a dying or dead as far as games go I have decided to purchase some for the computer. I do not play games much on the PC. The games are The Force Unleashed 1 and 2. I have the first one now and it runs mostly normal on my current HP PC with low settings which is 9 year old quad core with hmm a nvidia 640 GT. I was going to build a new PC but I have a older i3 core that is sitting in the room with no OS hmm.

My revised plan is to use this for windows 10 and a new video card. I have not kept up with the GPU market much and the GPU for The Force Unleashed 9800GT think I will keep that one as a reference point for a new GPU. The force unleashed 2 has a 8600GT wow that is much lower than the the first game. Another reason to use the i3 system is my HP has a 300 watt PSU and the case would not fix a longer GPU. what would be a good replacement for the 9800GT now days?

Thanks
Dave



Here is the specs of the i3

-Motherboard is Intel Dh55PJ
-Ram 4GB
-XFX HD 5570 GPU [ old I know]

 

[JoeMomma]

what would be a good replacement for the 9800GT now days?

Thanks
Dave

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html

Tom's recommendation is an upgrade should go up 2 tiers on the chart.
The GT 1030 ($75) is four tiers up. They make low profile and slim single slot 1030's
I would suggest the GTX 1050 ($120) as the best card that will work with a 300W PSU
and there are a lot of half length or low profile cards and single slot cards.

 

[dontlistentome]

The GT 640 comes in two versions, the DDR3 version and the DDR5 version. For gaming you want a DDR5 videocard. So, since the performance isn't that impressive with your 640(low settings), find out which version you have. Use a program like Speccy if you don't know how to find out.

If you have a DDR3 card, something like a GT 730 DDR5 card would be an inexpensive but noticeable upgrade from the 640. That's because it essentially is the 640 rebadged with a new model number, and the DDR5 memory of course.

A GT 1030 is a much more capable card but also costs more.

 

[cryoburner]

Any current generation graphics card will outperform the 9800GT by a wide margin, since that card came out around 9 years ago. As was suggested, a lower-end card like a GT 1030 might suffice. Something like a GTX 1050 or 1050 Ti should also be able to handle most recent games reasonably well at 1080p or below, assuming your CPU can keep up.

Intel has been using the i3/i5/i7 naming scheme for their processors for around 7 years now, and based on your motherboard, it sounds like your i3 is one of the earlier ones, so it's probably about half as fast as the current generation i3 processors. That should still be plenty for the Force Unleashed games, though some games released in the last couple years or so might exhibit performance issues.

One other thing worth pointing out is that if your monitor is older, and can only connect via a VGA cable (see here), you would need to use an active adapter with any of the latest generation graphics cards. If the monitor has a port for a DVI-D, HDMI or DisplayPort cable though, an active adapter shouldn't be necessary.

 

[Dave8671]

Information I left out The CPU is i3-560 clarkdale 3.33Ghz 2010 model, The Nvidia GPU is DDR3. I am not planning on playing new games so not really an issue. The monitor that I will be using is a new Acer S271HL 1920 x 1080 this is used for now with the HP system. I think I am going to go with the nvidia geforce 1050 IT. Since I was planing on building a new PC going for a good card is not going to be a issue. In general the manufacturers of the GPUs any one better that the other or are they just clones of each other?

Thanks again

 

[JoeMomma]

In general the manufacturers of the GPUs any one better that the other or are they just clones of each other?
Thanks again

For the most part the only difference between manufacturers is the cooling solution and the looks.
Most of them are good but there are a few crummy brands.
To name a few good ones: MSI, Asus, EVGA, Zotac, PNY.
There are more but I don't have experience with every brand. I like MSI and EVGA.

 

[cryoburner]

Performance-wise, cards from various manufacturers should perform relatively similar to one another. Some cards of a particular model will be clocked slightly differently from others, but they all share the same graphics processor, and in the case of the 1050 Ti, they all all have 4GB of VRAM. Some will also be outfitted with different styles of coolers than others, which can affect how quiet the card is under load. Those with larger or more fans can spin them slower to remain quieter. A 1050 Ti isn't a particularly power-hungry card though, so it shouldn't be hard to keep cool. It's more difficult to say about things like differences in build quality though, and warranty periods can also vary between manufacturers.

It looks like that monitor should support HDMI and DVI-D connections, so that should be fine if you use one of those cables. And the i3-560 was the fastest i3 from it's generation, so it should still work alright for many newer games. Again, some games from the last couple years might be too much for it to maintain steady performance, but coupled with a 1050 Ti, you could probably play most recent games on it at moderate settings, if you wanted.

 

[Dave8671]

Thanks all for the help. I need to keep myself up to date on tech.

 

[Dave8671]

Update, I decided to build a new system and keep my i3 core Linux mint. Here is my selected parts list below I have a case, dvd /CD player burner etc and power supply. If I could do better I am open to options? I want this system to last for 10 years. I could go to a i7 core but is it worth it?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWvPsZ

 

[madmatt30]

A quad core skylake is a pointless buy now.

Superceded by both the coffee lake 6 core i5 & the ryzen 6c/12t cpu's

You can do either of those with 16gb ram forvthe same price as your list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $738.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-22 11:56 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $722.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-22 11:59 EDT-0400

Re - your old drives , are you aure theyre sata drives?? ,

Your old system was ancient & they may be IDE in which case they need replacing.

 

[Dave8671]

A quad core skylake is a pointless buy now.

Superceded by both the coffee lake 6 core i5 & the ryzen 6c/12t cpu's

You can do either of those with 16gb ram forvthe same price as your list.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8400 2.8GHz 6-Core Processor ($178.90 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte - Z370P D3 ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($154.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $738.55
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-22 11:56 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($168.80 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($73.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($164.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: *Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB Video Card ($224.88 @ OutletPC)
Operating System: Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($89.89 @ OutletPC)
Total: $722.54
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-22 11:59 EDT-0400

Re - your old drives , are you sure theyre sata drives?? ,

Your old system was ancient & they may be IDE in which case they need replacing.

I know its SATA 3G 3.0 Gb/sec I know shocking, I had to replace my original primary drive a few years back. I plan on using the current drives I have now as long as the do not develop issues. I plan to build in the next year.

Thanks for the CPU info, I plan on using the Intel option.

 

[Dave8671]

I read about the sound and bios issues with the gigabyte modo z370p. Sound drivers are not that good it seems. I read this on amazon and I think I want to change it maybe an Asus, MSI ?


https://www.amazon.com/Z370P-D3-protection-Anti-Sulfur-Motherboard/dp/B077Y5JBQ5

 

[Dave8671]

After more research I went with the gigabyte modo z370p D3 RT. I read reviews other than amazons and found this mobo has less issues than others I looked at. I will be downloading new drivers for the mobo from Gigabyte for the win10 I am awaiting a HDD and another case fan

 

[Dave8671]

Update the system is built and running great I am using it now. I did however just use the on board-GPU since I had to use the GeForce GTX 1050 Ti for my win7 gaming PC. MY fan on my old AMD was buzzing that was driving me nuts.