Thermal Paste for Assembly?

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First off, the Amd warranty rquires that you use thier hsf, and TIM, for retail parts. I always start the chip using them. There is a chance that you get a bad chip, so it's a good idea.
Which chip are you getting? and will you be doing any heavy OCing. Also, What mobo?
The reason I ask, is because I am running with stock TIM. I am running the A64 3200+ @ 2.45ghz, 24/7, and for over 2 months. The highest temp my chip has shown was 55c.
If you are going to try for a hardcore OC, get a new HSF and that AS5. If not, give the stock a try, and see how things go, before you buy.
 
NO OC for me...just the default settings.
What is TMI ?...
Is this mean that if I want to keep the warranty intact I can not use any thermal paste or product of that kind except what's in the retail box from AMD ?
 
TIM = thermal interface material, so it's the stuff between heatsink and chip. Arctic silver is a TIM.
If you do have to rma, and haven't been using the stock TIM, cleaning bothe parts may restore your warranty.
In theory, not using the stock TIM will void your warranty. Yelling " you moron, you want me to carry these with that sticky crap on them" usually works.
 
May I ask what's the pronlem with the thermal pad that comes attached to the retailed heatsink of the AMD ATHLON processors?...I noticed a reluctance on ppl to use that Thermal pad.
I talked to AMD TECH SUPPORT before I assemble anything and they say that Artic Silver is not a good idea because it has metal particles in it.

However the postings in this forum talk about Artic Silver as the best solution. It is the best solution for OC?...as well as for ppl who do not OC ?

Bottom line...should I use Artic Silver? (and which one?? or stick with the stuf that comes in the retail box.

Is it hard to clean the artic silver if you have to RMA it?
 
AS has more silver oxide than silver. The oxygen molecules tent to stabalize the valence electrons, making it a poor conductor. However, in chips without a heat spreader (mobile A64s and xp chips) As retains enough conductivity that, should excess cover electrical connections adjacent to the chip, it could cause the psu to sense a short, and switch off. In this case, no components are damaged, normally.
Okay, enough of the bs. AS is not a problem for chips with heat spreaders, like the A64 desktop chips. I haven't found a need to use better TIM, on the A64s, but if I do, AS will be my product of choice. I still have enough left for a dozen or so chips anyhow.
A little history. Amd heatsink+fan setups have usually been about 70 to 80% the size of Intel's. They were fine for light use systems. If you pushed your setup too hard, the stock HSF just was not up to it. This is no longer true, with the A64 chips. It is possible to get better hsf and TIM, but the stock setup is usually good enough, even with some OCing.
 
May I ask what's the problem with the thermal pad that comes attached to the retailed heatsink of the AMD ATHLON processors?...
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Nothing. If you aren't going to overclock go ahead and use it.

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Does anyone have any experience with AMD rma-ing? I have an A64 3000 which i suspect may be shorted after PS blew up, so I want to send it off for test. (I dont want to risk damaging another MB by testing myself). If there is not a problem with it do AMD charge a test fee?
Back to the point, I used As instead of the standard TIM, but Ive cleaned it and am hoping they won't be able to tell.
 
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