thermal paste lack causing pc to shut off?

[isavigualco]

i bought used parts to make my gaming rig
i5 650
gt 640
500 w psu
8 gb of ram
and a dq57tm mobo
I tried to install windows 10, the machine would get stuck on the logo and restart on its own, same with windows vista and windows 7. i changed the hard drive, then the psu. and nothing seemed to solve the issue. I decided that i was going to change the thermal paste , so i grabbed some that was pre aplied on a cooler master cooler and aplied it to the intel stock cooler. i managed to install windows 7, but it keeps restarting on its own sometimes. do i need more thermal paste? or does it seem that bad thermal paste is not the only issue? pls halp

 

[Supahos]

Download msi afterburner and check CPU temps under load (noone cares what your idle temps are) this will answer your question.

 

[Rogue Leader]

i bought used parts to make my gaming rig
i5 650
gt 640
500 w psu
8 gb of ram
and a dq57tm mobo
I tried to install windows 10, the machine would get stuck on the logo and restart on its own, same with windows vista and windows 7. i changed the hard drive, then the psu. and nothing seemed to solve the issue. I decided that i was going to change the thermal paste , so i grabbed some that was pre aplied on a cooler master cooler and aplied it to the intel stock cooler. i managed to install windows 7, but it keeps restarting on its own sometimes. do i need more thermal paste? or does it seem that bad thermal paste is not the only issue? pls halp

Wait a second, how the hell did you do this?

This is not the proper way to apply paste whatsoever, and likely at least part of your problem.

Clean off the CPU, the cooler, BUY a tube of paste, and properly apply it.

 

[Karadjgne]

Sounds like a corrupted cmos/bios. Unplug the pc, pull out the battery that's under the gpu. Count to 10. Put the battery back in. Then try and start. The cmos is the data/settings used by the bios. If you clear out the cmos, it forces the bios to go hunting all of your current components, instead if reapplying the settings from whatever pc that mobo came out of prior. I'd also get a copy if the motherboard drivers and install them before trying to install windows. Reboot after adding a driver.

 

[nydomino24]

If your CPU was overheating due to lack of paste it would tell you. It pops up a warning and then shuts off

 

[Rogue Leader]

If your CPU was overheating due to lack of paste it would tell you. It pops up a warning and then shuts off

No, it doesn't. Thermal issues cause throttling and then immediate shut down. There is no warning.

 

[nydomino24]

If your CPU was overheating due to lack of paste it would tell you. It pops up a warning and then shuts off

No, it doesn't. Thermal issues cause throttling and then immediate shut down. There is no warning.

Not all mobos are the same.. older asus boards had this feature. i know since it happened to me lol

 

[Rogue Leader]

If your CPU was overheating due to lack of paste it would tell you. It pops up a warning and then shuts off

No, it doesn't. Thermal issues cause throttling and then immediate shut down. There is no warning.

Not all mobos are the same.. older asus boards had this feature. i know since it happened to me lol

So, a single old motherboard may have given you a thermal warning. I've used hundreds of different motherboards in the past 25 years and never seen such a warning, heck theres usually not enough time. So its not a rule of thumb and giving advice based on it is incorrect.

 

[nydomino24]

If your CPU was overheating due to lack of paste it would tell you. It pops up a warning and then shuts off

No, it doesn't. Thermal issues cause throttling and then immediate shut down. There is no warning.

Not all mobos are the same.. older asus boards had this feature. i know since it happened to me lol

So, a single old motherboard may have given you a thermal warning. I've used hundreds of different motherboards in the past 25 years and never seen such a warning, heck theres usually not enough time. So its not a rule of thumb and giving advice based on it is incorrect.

sigh.

 

[Rogue Leader]

sigh.

My feeling exactly

 

[isavigualco]

Download msi afterburner and check CPU temps under load (noone cares what your idle temps are) this will answer your question.

Solved, one ram slot was defective. found out when i managed to install windows 32 bit but not 64 bit.

 

[Karadjgne]

x86 (32bit) and x64 (64bit) have nothing to do with ram other than x86 has a 4Gb (3.5Gb usable) cap. Does not mean there is a defective slot, simply means your pc for some reason does not like more than 4Gb.

Simple test. 1x stick in 1st slot, boot. Shutdown. Same stick in 2nd slot, boot.
Swap sticks, try test again.
Ram socket is only broke if both sticks fail in the same slot, but also work in the other slot. If one stick works in both and the other stick fails in both, you have bad ram stick, not a broke mobo.

If both sticks work in both slots, remove the x86 Windows, pick 1 stick and try installing x64. Both slots. If failure in both, swap sticks and try again.

There's a possibility that there is a failure in the ram, but after the first 4Gb. So you'd be able to run the x86 since it only uses upto 3.5GB, but the x64 will use the full ram capabilities, and failing.

 

[Rogue Leader]

x86 (32bit) and x64 (64bit) have nothing to do with ram other than x86 has a 4Gb (3.5Gb usable) cap. Does not mean there is a defective slot, simply means your pc for some reason does not like more than 4Gb.

Simple test. 1x stick in 1st slot, boot. Shutdown. Same stick in 2nd slot, boot.
Swap sticks, try test again.
Ram socket is only broke if both sticks fail in the same slot, but also work in the other slot. If one stick works in both and the other stick fails in both, you have bad ram stick, not a broke mobo.

If both sticks work in both slots, remove the x86 Windows, pick 1 stick and try installing x64. Both slots. If failure in both, swap sticks and try again.

There's a possibility that there is a failure in the ram, but after the first 4Gb. So you'd be able to run the x86 since it only uses upto 3.5GB, but the x64 will use the full ram capabilities, and failing.

+1 on this, and your thermal paste is still poorly applied, so even if you solve this issue, you still have more issues.