hmmmm how about you go take a look at how long i have been here and how many posts i have for a start - the 1970 bug tells you everything
[citation][nom]lordstormdragon[/nom]"If 1) your laptop was designed correctly and 2) you didnt use your laptop on the floor/carpet/bed you wouldn't need this product or any similar product as they should NOT be needed."Good points, except that 90% of all laptops aren't manufactured to your oh-so-strict standards. Mine doesn't even have a fan for the GPU or RAM (old HP DV-6000). And when gaming, the GPU heats up to 90° C and makes the touchpad unusable, as it's right below the touchpad...So this product would benefit 90% of the laptop owners out there, and the other 10% of the elitist cash-chuckers don't need it. If you don't need it, don't buy it. But don't try to discredit the validity of such an accessory.[/citation]
NO LAPTOP HAS A DEDICATED FAN FOR RAM NOR IS IT NEEDED, also the GPU would be cooled by the same heatpipe or hsf as the cpu/chipset, the DV9000 has a tiny but dedicated hsf, the DV2000 also does not. DV6000 series isnt a gaming laptop either, dont know what you can "play" on it.
I have torn apart and reflowed so many laptops with nvidia graphics its not funny i can tell you in detail what to expect with all models, i can tell you the DV2000 is more complex to tear apart then a DV6000 or DV9000 or the newer HP's thanks to having 10x the ammount of unique screws everywhere and the top palm rest flexing and never bending into shape 100% again.
This is amazing coming from someone who owns a DV6000 HP the WORST MOST UNRELIABLE LAPTOP IN THE WORLD where did you get the idea to buy that? Go google the problems they ALL had and the average lifespan of them thanks to the Nvidia GPU's failing - i can confirm all this because i work on them every day, i reflow the GPU and bam they work again for a while and i resell them, i make a living off them, its my job, dont tell me i dont know about them.
[citation][nom]grooveboss[/nom]its an upgrade on cooling thats it. Cooler computers run better. End of story. If you dont want to upgrade your cooling thats fine but if you do then get one.[/citation]
Computers dont really care about temps, but down my way its better them running warm - drives the dampness/moisture out but there are better tricks for that, and aslong as there under 80ºc load (laptops) they will be fine (obviously HDD's dont like that however)
[citation][nom]razor512[/nom]laptop cooling pads are generally ripoffs, I can build one for around $5 (I made one using a little bit of wood, a 120mm case fan with build in fan speed controller, a few nails, and some wood glue. May not look as nice but it works extremely well. I mainly use it for various older HP laptops where HP thought it would be a good idea to put the hard drive in a unventilated enclosure (this made running spinrite nearly impossible as the hard drive would overheat after 10 minutes)For a well designed laptop you never need a cooling pad if you clean the heatsinks regularly.[/citation]
An old chopping board is fine to rest it on your lap, and HDD's dont overheat you have other issues
[citation][nom]nothing_personal[/nom]Nvidia gpu on laptops has been a POS since the 7 series,im not talking about performance but reliability and durability.Even with proper cooling.[/citation]
Exactly my point
[citation][nom]kelvinty[/nom]Hm... you obvious haven't dealt with ASUS G50 series or G71 and DV7 with decent graphics card.Try running them with primark + furmark 5 hours. See who is laughing, ambient temperature being around 23 Degrees Celcius.hm... seems like someone doesn't have all the facts.I work with notebooks, it's my job, I think I know a bit more than the average bear.[/citation]
Well you dont obviously, after the first half hour it gets to about the max temp, you would also take note 99% of the never model hp's - DV7 etc HAVE ATI VIDEO NOW does that give you a hint as to any faults with another GPU vendor? And the DV7 with its 45º angled ventilation and some without base air intake making this product again useless - take a look at one next time. Also have an Alienware laptop floating around with SLI - dead nvidia GPU's, the guy used to use a cooler pad, not a spec of dust in the unit and a year later and just out of warranty DEAD.
I doubt your skills, you sound like what we call a "backyarder" - clueless.
23ºc ambient - try a 38ºc summer.
Go to Intel's website and have a look at the white papers for most Intel mobile processors and chipsets and there max temps - alot are certified to run at 100ºc.
[citation][nom]kastraelie[/nom]Always refreshing to wake up and see one more person on the internet making ridiculous, laughable, claims.I do agree with him that if you set your laptop on a desk it shouldn't shut off using the programs it was designed for. However computers are an open product that are a nightmare for CEM designers because often people do things to them that they just shouldn't (ever remove a virus?). Not every system was made to bench or clock with.I'm curious to know what bulletproof laptop you use, apache_lives. =)[/citation]
Iv never paid for a laptop in my life, the ones my customers trade in or dont want to get repaired are sufficent - a Dell Latitude 6400 (T7500/4GB/GeForce7900GS - cost me nothing, fixed dead GPU and sold it after a year), a Dell Latitude 1725 (T9300/4gb/GeForce8600M-GT - same deal sold it). I still have a mountain of laptops to fix/repair/sell so if i ever want another its no effort.
Only laptop i currently use is an old DV5 with INTEL onboard video to run as a low power remote access/download/game server (65w power pack - low power FTW) - it runs 24/7 - it has no screen or screen assembly no nothing, it runs under constant load also and has been on for YEARS without hassle, hell the power goes out its got its own battery so it literally has not been off for years, even when i moved house it was still on during transport.
to buy a laptop but for it to not work, a gaming laptop that cant game right yeah your right
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