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The new WoD books, that is.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike
 
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"Stephenls" <stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote in message
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> The new WoD books, that is.
> --
> Stephenls
> Geek


I'm still forming my opinions.

I actually liked the opening fiction in the WoD Corebook. Struck me like
Unknown Armies stuff.

CB
 
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Intelligroove wrote:

> I'm still forming my opinions.

> I actually liked the opening fiction in the WoD Corebook. Struck me like
> Unknown Armies stuff.

Yeah. The stuff in the WoD Rulebook is suitably weird, though it's more
like Call of Cthulhu or well-done horror stories than it's like Unknown
Armies. UA is all about postmodernism and how every age has its own
supernatural phenomenon, but the WoD Rulebook stuff seems more
"traditional eldrich horrors from out of the past" than "The global
telecommunications network is gaining sentience and communicating with
cultists through late-night TV re-runs of I Love Lucy."

It does have the UA vibe of paranoia, confusion, and despair, though.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike
 
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*sighs* I want my books! Oh well; tomorrow, I'll have them tomorrow.
Maybe I'll get lucky and they'll show up before I head off to school.
This seems unlikely, however.

Stephenls wrote:

> The new WoD books, that is.
 
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Ditto. Got 'em sometime Friday evening, even though FedEx predicted Monday.
Yay.

First Impressions:

Yummy physical feel. Nice heft, great satiny-feeling finish on the covers
(though I think as the books wear that'll fade), good paper. The fonts are
OK. The text fonts are a little small for me now, though I doubt that'll be
a problem for most gamers. The header fonts in VtR are almost illegible; I
have trouble reading 'script' fonts (and cursive, for that matter), but
that's all me, I think.

As far as contents go. . . I've just skimmed them both. I like the new
system, as it seems easier to keep track of things, but it looks like I'll
havve to buy more dice if I ever find a group to play with. I like some
things, some things I'm dubious about. I'm more than satisfied that I got my
money's worth. I really like the WoD book, but I got a headache trying to
figure out the new social structure in VtR. Or maybe I just needed more
light. Anyway, I think the mechanical changes in VtR are very, very
interesting, in a good way. Almost makes me want to play.

Well, actually, I'd love to play. This just makes me almost willng to hunt
around for someone to play with.

Joel Morton
 
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Joel Morton <joelwmortonNOSPAM@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Ditto. Got 'em sometime Friday evening, even though FedEx predicted
Monday.
> Yay.
>
> First Impressions:
>
> Yummy physical feel. Nice heft, great satiny-feeling finish on the
covers
> (though I think as the books wear that'll fade), good paper. The
fonts are
> OK. The text fonts are a little small for me now, though I doubt
that'll be
> a problem for most gamers. The header fonts in VtR are almost
illegible
------
Heh - I keep reading "stuff" as "stagg" and the extreme length of the
cross on the lower case T adds to the confusion. I suppose it's meant
to look as if handwritten in blood.

--
You are Not entering Chapeltown.
We walk on two legs, the one abstract
the other surreal.
All important political action should be
aimed at persuading people of the
necessity of further sacrifices.
- Ardian Vehbiu, "Handbook for
Aspiring Stalinists"
 
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Certic wrote:

> Heh - I keep reading "stuff" as "stagg" and the extreme length of the
> cross on the lower case T adds to the confusion. I suppose it's meant
> to look as if handwritten in blood.

I found it near-illegible at the beginning, but now it's no problem -- I
can glance at a header and comprehend it as fast as I can comprehend any
other written text. It just took a bit for me to start registering the
patterns.

It definitely adds to the effect of the book, which is, above all else,
very, very pretty.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike
 
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So is it just the headings and fiction that appear in funky fonts, or
are they still presenting large chunks of exposition in those illegible
"handwriting" fonts?

--
Tyler

u d e t o d r y s t a n o i d f t

Bac>|wards
 
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Tyler Dion wrote:

> So is it just the headings and fiction that appear in funky fonts, or
> are they still presenting large chunks of exposition in those illegible
> "handwriting" fonts?

Er.

The prologue, "Dance of the Dead," and the epilogue, "Strings and
Piano," are both presented in a set of four separate basically legible
fonts in white against a red-black background, but together they're
about 8 pages, and the fonts are big.

Rest of the book, except possibly the red, handwriting-looking font, is
eminently legible. There's no long passages of stuff in evil illegible
fonts.

....

The WoD rulebook is a different story. It presents fiction in weird
fonts near the beginning. Not /illegible/, but definitely not Times New
Roman. It's presented in the context of being newspaper articles,
journals, police files, and things.


All of it is very very very pretty. V:tR deserves to win some awards
for best and most attractive layout.
--
Stephenls
Geek
"I'm as impure as the driven yellow snow." -Spike
 
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Joel Morton wrote:

> Well, actually, I'd love to play. This just makes me almost willng to hunt
> around for someone to play with.

My friends and I got together and played the Mary's Child scenario
literally as soon as we got our grubby hands on the books. Scotty had
been reading the scenario ahead of time so he was already familiar with
the rules therein. I especially like how vampires have to make Wits +
Composure (I think it was) when they encounter one another and their
beasts collide, psychologically speaking.
 
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In article <2ouukeFevoa8U1@uni-berlin.de>, Stephenls
<stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote:

> The WoD rulebook is a different story. It presents fiction in weird
> fonts near the beginning. Not /illegible/, but definitely not Times New
> Roman. It's presented in the context of being newspaper articles,
> journals, police files, and things.

Like Courier and such? Those're all right. Heck, Courier's one of the
most readable fonts around.

I'm thinking more of the fonts they used in Dead Magic and GttTrads to
represent characters' handwritten documents. Nothing else has ever made
me wish for a section to be as short as possible.

--
Tyler

u d e t o d r y s t a n o i d f t

Bac>|wards
 
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Tyler Dion <tfdion@spammenot.com> wrote in message
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> In article <2ouukeFevoa8U1@uni-berlin.de>, Stephenls
> <stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote:
>
> > The WoD rulebook is a different story. It presents fiction in
weird
> > fonts near the beginning. Not /illegible/, but definitely not
Times New
> > Roman. It's presented in the context of being newspaper articles,
> > journals, police files, and things.
>
> Like Courier and such? Those're all right. Heck, Courier's one of
the
> most readable fonts around.
>
> I'm thinking more of the fonts they used in Dead Magic and GttTrads
to
> represent characters' handwritten documents. Nothing else has ever
made
> me wish for a section to be as short as possible.
---------
Does anyone remember the first printings of Chivalry and Sorcery 3,
before BGD got it? Now the GM's book for that was nearly completely
unreadable in places, thanks to their grey fonts on grey
backgrounds... I keep a copy and will show it to anyone who wants to
moan about the WoD book.

--
You are Not entering Chapeltown.
We walk on two legs, the one abstract
the other surreal.
All important political action should be
aimed at persuading people of the
necessity of further sacrifices.
- Ardian Vehbiu, "Handbook for
Aspiring Stalinists"
 
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Stephenls <stephenls@shaw.ca> wrote in message news:<2oq85pFd25p2U1@uni-berlin.de>...
> Intelligroove wrote:
>
> > I'm still forming my opinions.
>
> > I actually liked the opening fiction in the WoD Corebook. Struck me like
> > Unknown Armies stuff.
>
> Yeah. The stuff in the WoD Rulebook is suitably weird, though it's more
> like Call of Cthulhu or well-done horror stories than it's like Unknown
> Armies. UA is all about postmodernism and how every age has its own
> supernatural phenomenon, but the WoD Rulebook stuff seems more
> "traditional eldrich horrors from out of the past" than "The global
> telecommunications network is gaining sentience and communicating with
> cultists through late-night TV re-runs of I Love Lucy."
>
> It does have the UA vibe of paranoia, confusion, and despair, though.

Comparing it to other (previous) WoD stuff, I felt it was pretty close
to Hunter/Demon...but cooler.^^ Referencing the Mothman Prophecies was
very appropriate to the mood...

So, Gothic-Punk is finally dead? And now we have, what was it,
Gothic-Modern?

Dex
 
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Tyler Dion wrote:
> Like Courier and such? Those're all right. Heck, Courier's one of the
> most readable fonts around.
>
> I'm thinking more of the fonts they used in Dead Magic and GttTrads to
> represent characters' handwritten documents. Nothing else has ever made
> me wish for a section to be as short as possible.

I'm most of the way through WoD now. There's only been one font that
was annoyingly unreadable so far. P's looked like B's because of an
extra flourish and pieces of letters were missing, making them look like
other letters depending on which letters surrounded them.
Fortunately, this font appeared in the one-page header fiction to a
chapter and has not resurfaced since. The actual contents of the book
are fully legible (probably Courier, Aerial or Times New Roman.)
 
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