Thinking of buying a 4K tv for gaming at 1440p

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My main 50" TV went a few days back and i was just getting ready to buy a 144hz 1440p monitor for gaming.
Well with the need to purchase a TV now, the monitor is out of the question so i was thinking of just getting a Vizio D50U http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01A0LGV06?tag=rtings-tv-bm01a-20&ie=UTF8
which was very highly rated for gaming and movies for a under $500 4K TV.
Can i use this for 1440P gaming as well as watching 1080p content?
For the $500 this Vizio cost's i don't see the point/logic of buying another 1080 TV for the same price, mine as well get a 4K and use it for 1440 if i can?
 
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I have been gaming on a 50" for the last two years and loved it!
when i had to go back to my 24" monitor i did not even like it longer.
was going to get the biggest 1440 monitor i could before the 50" tv went
 
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Going from 30 ms to 10 ms in the case of my projector and gaming monitor, I don't notice a difference at all. So, since there are a lot of TV's comfortably below 30 ms, even down to 12 ms if I remember correctly, then that's just so fast that you won't notice waiting for inputs.

My old TV however, 79 ms, is a mess. I can move the stick on my controller really quickly, and right before it moves back into place in the middle, that's when my character starts moving on screen. This is not the case with my projector and monitor, they're both fast enough.

The TV you're into OP is a 120 Hz native TV, but it can't do 120 Hz. It can do 1440p, that's a software thing. GPU's can do it no problem.

I personally still think that the Sony X810C is the best value "gaming" TV (if you will). Mainly because it can do 4k 60 Hz 4.4.4 chroma, as well as 1080 120 Hz. It doesn't have 3D, and it doesn't have HDR though.

It's double your budget: http://www.amazon.com/Sony-XBR55X810C-55-Inch-Ultra-Smart/dp/B0148OZLOS

Therer are a lot of TV's out there. You might even find good ones used.
 
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16ms lag is the general rule of thumb as being significant for most uses... that's 1 frame at 60 Hz.. FSP gamers ofc want none at all :) but 3 is doable.

Software scales the image but how well it does that depends on each implementation.

With the OP having a 50" TV ... and loving it, I would not have issue with replacing it with another comparable unit. But, as he was planning on buying a new 1440p monitor, the question that immediately pops to mind is ... whatever he had as the motivation for adding that 1440p monitor, will it be obtained with the new TV ?
 
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I've been playing FPS games since I was like 5, I'm 20 now. 😛

I really don't notice the difference between the two. This to me is important to note, because it's realistic. Slowing down video or showing still frames isn't an accurate real world representation of input lag. I just find it very odd that people are so placebo driven, for lack of a better word...

I've not conducted any scientific tests on input lag, but when people say CRT's are good for speed running for instance. What's never mentioned is that it's required to hit certain frames, not that it feels more responsive than something that's slightly higher, if that makes sense?

I don't know, it's very subjective I guess. Though it does annoy me that marketing is seen as reality by most consumers. It's a huge problem in the 'e-sports' industry, for instance.
 
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I started building PCs about 25 years ago ... My 3 sons are also all avid gamers (27, 26 and 20) and also started building along side me when each was 8 -10. One thing I found interesting over the years is that we had a $1000 IPS screen and three 120/144 Hz screens and despite all the vaunted claims of color superiority, that was always the last box picked when they sat down to game....the reason ... lag.

What also has to be recognized is that we live in a new world today, the old "can you tell the difference between 60 fps and 120 fps in gaming" is no longer relevant (some can some cant). Today's question is "can it use ULMB ?" Needless to say, motion blur reduction has had a big impact on image quality. If you have an nVidia card and a G-Sync monitor, you have ULMB. Not using it is like having a 4WD vehicle going off-road without turning it on.

The fact remains therefore that on a TV:

a) You can't use G-Sync
b) You can't use ULMB

Unlike the 60 fps / 120 fps question, there is little debate as to whether these technologies improve the viewing experience.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSgHqImxQpE
http://www.blurbusters.com/zero-motion-blur/video/

Now are these important to the OP... I don't know . If the purpose of buying a new 144 hz 1440p monitor was to take advantage of these technologies ... or get to 144 Hz (I don't know), then buying a TV and expecting them to be there or for the TV to actually deliver 144 hz, ... then the OP would not be getting what he was expecting bevcause the high refresh rate, as you said, isn't real on the TV
 
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I'm not able to determine which "that" you are referring to but most "thats" will depend on your goals. Grandma doesn't "need" a discrete video card at all. No one needs, or should even try and use a 50" TV in room for which proper viewing distances can be obtained. As i don't know what "that" feature was the reason the OP decided that he wanted that 144 Hz 1440p monitor, the various differences between the two were presented so that could be evaluated.

Technology is oft one of those things were once you have become accustomed to certain things, 'going back" to something lesser is annoying or frustrating ... which is why having this or "that" will be important to some and not to others.
 
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The only reason i was looking into a 1440 monitor was to game at true 1440p resolution
With the 50" TV i was using nvidia's DSR to upscale to 1440 even though the TV had a 1080 native resolution.
Now that my TV went i have to start over so to speak and get something for both my TV watching and gaming as i cannot afford both at the moment. my budget is $1000 and that will not buy both a 50" 4K TV and a 1440 monitor.
I use a GTX 980ti classified and am a moderate gamer, a few hours here and there. Not one of those guys that play online with friends for hours and hours and is competitive with it.
 
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I have a budget of $1000 as of today which would buy that TV but what makes it so much better than the $500 Vizio?
Looking at the reviews for both
http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/vizio/d-series-4k-2016

http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x810c

it seems the SONY upscales lower resolutions a bit better and has the chroma support on 1080-4K but it is also DOUBLE the price of that Vizio!
Also my GPU is a EVGA 980ti classified and is more than capable of gaming at 1440.
 
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Have a similar question I need assistance with. Building a new rig with a 1070 when they come out and hoping to jump into 2k gaming. I have a 65 inch samsung 4k TV and unsure if this would even support 2k, and whether it would be a good pc gaming experience on the TV or not.

Samsung UN65JU7100 65-Inch 4K Ultra
 
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I was trying to hook my PC up to a Pioneer TV back from, oh, maybe 10 years ago. It was just impossible to get it to scale properly. The image was cut off. I tried everything I could do in the Intel graphic control panel, nothing would fix it. I tried everything from custom resolutions to all the other options. It was just literally impossible to get that image to display properly.

On the other hand, recent TVs I've used that are more recent (6 years and forward) have been perfectly fine without a problem when working with my PCs.
 
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Yes you will be fine, after researching the same thing all day yesterday i found out all 4K TV's will do 1080,2K and 4K
depending on what you set the in game resolution on.
 
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Just be aware that "can do" and "do well" are two different things, .... as others have said above, scaling can sometimes be iffy and unsatisfactory. I'm not saying everything hill be terrible, I'm saying it introduces issues that you would not encounter with a monitor. A web search on "image scaling PC TV" will provide some good reading.




Poetry no, bur research and testing, yes ... it's and essential part of my profession.

G-Sync and ULMB would be two features. In today's setting, I would as likely go without those features as I would a broadband connection.

 
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Have not bought anything yet? Taking my time and making sure.
I am reading negatives on just about every 4K TV in my price range?
You say the SONY XBR55810c is really good?
I will be getting a 5 year extended warranty on what ever TV i get if i spend over $850
The most i can spend with warranty is $1200, that would get me that vizio or sony?
 
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Here are my TV needs,
really good up scaling for lower resolutions like 480i and 720i(i have comcast cable)
prefer 4:4:4 chroma support at 60hz minimum for 1080p and up
50"-55" screen size
need clear text to use as a monitor for web surfing.
 
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So in the $1000 range the sony xbr810c is the best bang for the buck?
I dont want a used or a refurb TV, am definitely getting extended coverage(5 years) on the TV after only getting a little over a year on my last 50" set!
 
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I do see a lot of good reviews in the Sony 810c and the 4K is just a added bonus for me since i will be using it for
2K anyway in gaming. I will have the 4K option for whatever 4K material i may come across but mostly i wanted 4K for the1440(2K) ability,
If you look here http://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by-price/under-1000/best
the Vizio did score higher BUT it has a few drawbacks for me, it does not upscale as good as the Sony
and like you said does not do 120hz at 1080P. unless i go the 55" which is $100 more than the sony.
I also prefer the stand on the Sony for where the TV will be sitting.
Basically my choices are narrowed down to the Sony or the P series Vizio 55"
both are doable for $1200 with a 5 year extended warranty.
 
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