[SOLVED] Thinking of my 1st pc build. Are there issues with these parts?

[Vizintushai]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ongobotoborotaan/saved/NBR68d

I would like to build a PC for playing newer games like modern warfare. Are there any incompatibilities with these parts? Do you have any suggestions on what I can do to improve this list?

I don't know why, but I have a feeling I can lower the cost of the overall build somehow. However, I've read multiple times online that the PSU should not be cheaped out on. I was shooting for a budget around $600-$850. However, I am willing to go a little bit past that if it's not too much.

Thank you for reading my post. I appreciate any replies.

 

[R_1]

Welcome to the Forums 😀
a couple issues, the biggest is that is the WRONG CX power supply, you need the one with the grey label, the green labeled units are junk.
The RAM is a tad slow, ryzen 2 gets along best with 3200 as a base speed, try to find a lil bit faster RAM.

for your consideration
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($53.50 @ Walmart)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $932.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:03 EDT-0400

changed the RAM to faster modules and swapped the PSU to a Gold rated unit with twice the warranty for a few dollars more.
upgraded and cheaper.

 

[R_1]

This system is a bit closer to your max budget.
swapped to an older CPU but the 8% increase is not worth the 25% increase in price, IMHO.
traded the drives for other units, same capacity and speed. GPU was changed to the 1650 Super, its on par with the 580 but cheaper, newer architecture too.
results for the gist the general idea, you get the point
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3955vs3919

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $852.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:20 EDT-0400

 

[Vizintushai]

Welcome to the Forums 😀
a couple issues, the biggest is that is the WRONG CX power supply, you need the one with the grey label, the green labeled units are junk.
The RAM is a tad slow, ryzen 2 gets along best with 3200 as a base speed, try to find a lil bit faster RAM.

for your consideration
PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor ($193.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 250 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($53.50 @ Walmart)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($44.99 @ Adorama)
Video Card: XFX Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $932.69
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:03 EDT-0400

changed the RAM to faster modules and swapped the PSU to a Gold rated unit with twice the warranty for a few dollars more.
upgraded and cheaper.

Thank you for your advice! I'll be sure to watch out for the junk psu in the future btw. Other than the changes in this new list, do you think there will be any incompatibilities? Someone had a look at my original list too and he made the following suggestions:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZP239G

 

[Vizintushai]

This system is a bit closer to your max budget.
swapped to an older CPU but the 8% increase is not worth the 25% increase in price, IMHO.
traded the drives for other units, same capacity and speed. GPU was changed to the 1650 Super, its on par with the 580 but cheaper, newer architecture too.
results for the gist the general idea, you get the point
https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/AMD-Ryzen-5-2600-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/3955vs3919

https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1650S-Super-vs-AMD-RX-580/4058vs3923

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (14nm) 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor ($145.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Best Buy)
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory ($72.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Crucial BX500 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($39.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda ES 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($35.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card ($159.99 @ B&H)
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply ($104.99 @ B&H)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSC0B DVD/CD Writer ($18.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit ($108.78 @ Other World Computing)
Total: $852.67
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:20 EDT-0400

This list looks great! I will take a look at it right now. Thank you for your suggestion!

 

[refillable]

a couple issues, the biggest is that is the WRONG CX power supply, you need the one with the grey label, the green labeled units are junk.

The 750 W is actually not junk. It's the 430, 500, and 600 W green CXs that were junk. The new (not discontinued), green 750 W CX/CXM are actually OK, though not better than the grey ones.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZP239G

I think this one is better than anything that has been listed here. I'd change the power supply though. I have nothing against that NeoEco Gold but it looks like it's made from Andyson, not the most reliable OEMs out there. I'd stick with something like the Focus Plus especially considering the fact that it's only $25 more.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZK8KRk

 

[R_1]

The 750 W is actually not junk. It's the 430, 500, and 600 W green CXs that were junk. The new (not discontinued), green 750 W CX/CXM are actually OK, though not better than the grey ones.

at that price, when for the same price you can double the quality and warranty, its junk. at $65 a different story at $105 its hot junk.
price/warranty length
105/5=21 per warranted year
105/10=10.50 per warranted year

expensive hot junk

 

[NightHawkRMX]

You could get a 1tb SSD for the price of the 250gb SSD and 1tb HDD. The 1tb SSD makes more sense to me. Would get 3200mhz at minimum.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $172.76 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $89.99 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $68.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card | $229.99 @ B&H
Case | Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $104.99 @ B&H
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $836.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:42 EDT-0400 |
I went with a cheaper but still decent motherboard that is compatible.
Faster ram will provide some performance uplift for like $3
Single 1tb NVME SSD. It does cost a bit more than the small SSD and HDD.
Superior gold rated PSU

I believe the green label CX750 are the same platform as the newer CX750 grey models. Its mainly the old CX430,500,and 600 that had issues. Still id prefer the gold EVGA GD 600w for $98 or ideally the seasonic

 

[refillable]

at that price, when for the same price you can double the quality and warranty, its junk. at $65 a different story at $105 its hot junk.

I was just saying that not all green labels are the same junk. I guess we differ on the definition of "junk". Junk to me are low quality units that I won't use to power anything that has a dedicated GPU which the CX 750 isn't.

 

[Vizintushai]

You could get a 1tb SSD for the price of the 250gb SSD and 1tb HDD. The 1tb SSD makes more sense to me. Would get 3200mhz at minimum.

PCPartPicker Part List

Type|Item|Price
:----|:----|:----
CPU | AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor | $172.76 @ Amazon
Motherboard | MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard | $89.99 @ B&H
Memory | G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory | $68.99 @ Newegg
Storage | Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive | $119.99 @ Newegg
Video Card | Asus GeForce GTX 1660 SUPER 6 GB TUF GAMING OC Video Card | $229.99 @ B&H
Case | Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case | $49.99 @ B&H
Power Supply | SeaSonic FOCUS Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply | $104.99 @ B&H
| Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts |
| Total | $836.70
| Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-05-02 14:42 EDT-0400 |
I went with a cheaper but still decent motherboard that is compatible.
Faster ram will provide some performance uplift for like $3
Single 1tb NVME SSD. It does cost a bit more than the small SSD and HDD.
Superior gold rated PSU

I believe the green label CX750 are the same platform as the newer CX750 grey models. Its mainly the old CX430,500,and 600 that had issues. Still id prefer the gold EVGA GD 600w for $98 or ideally the seasonic

Hi thank you for your response. Is there much difference between the micro ATX board and regular sized motherboard? Also, in terms of checking if it will fit in the case, do I just check the dimensions of the parts and compare it to the dimensions of the case? Thank you for reading.

 

[R_1]

If the case says ATX it can hold both ATX and uATX/mATX motherboards.
if the case says uATX/mATX it cannot hold a full ATX board

mATX has 4 expansion slots on the rear
ATX has 7 on the rear

ATX is larger offering more room for more ports and expansion features. heat sources can be spread farther apart on an ATX board than they can on a mATX board.

ATX more room more slots, bigger. more room means bigger coolers on VRM and the like
mATX sleek small but just as capable, size is traded for features, fewer RAM slots, fewer PCIe slots.

 

[refillable]

Hi thank you for your response. Is there much difference between the micro ATX board and regular sized motherboard? Also, in terms of checking if it will fit in the case, do I just check the dimensions of the parts and compare it to the dimensions of the case? Thank you for reading.

I don't think there's anything extremely huge that you should worry about. Almost all ATX cases will be fine. As for the motherboards, it depends on what motherboard you're talking about. The MSI Tomahawk is a much better board, since it can run a stock 3950X just fine. The PRO VDH, however, won't. If you're talking about the MSI Mortar mATX board though, it's about the same as the Tomahawk.

 

[deesider]

I would also add that if you are getting an ATX case there is no benefit in a mATX motherboard - it would only give you the same features or less for the same or greater price.

 

[Vizintushai]

Hello thank you all for your suggestions. I made a new part picker list. However, I got rid of the SSD, figured I would be able to add that on at another time. I replaced the original 1tb hdd with a 2tb hdd instead. What do you think of this list so far? Is there anything I should change? I just saw that this case has only 1 fan although I think that's normal?

Thanks again for all your help!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7P3tb8

 

[refillable]

Hello thank you all for your suggestions. I made a new part picker list. However, I got rid of the SSD, figured I would be able to add that on at another time. I replaced the original 1tb hdd with a 2tb hdd instead. What do you think of this list so far? Is there anything I should change? I just saw that this case has only 1 fan although I think that's normal?

Thanks again for all your help!

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7P3tb8

Looks good to me. Why did you rid the SSD? It makes a huge difference.