This is my first time building & i am using someone else's 500-600$ gaming build. ( please help )

[coocolad]

Hello this is my first time attempting to build a PC and i wanted it to be within a reasonable budget while still putting out decent performance or at the very least being able to run most games at 60 fps. Since i don't know the first thing about the components and parts of a computer other than how to put the thing together i was wondering if anyone could help me determine just how effective this rig would be ( in your opinion ). Any assistance is greatly appreciated i don't want my first build to end up being just as slow as my current pre-built is for gaming. Here is the short video where he lists off the parts and his reason for choosing them and and also a written list for those who don't wish to hear a random Youtuber ramble. Oh and if there are any parts you would perhaps recommend instead that are withing the 600$ budget feel free to let me know thanks again!

List of parts:
CPU: Intel 3.70 GHz Core i3-6100 3M Cache Processor (BX80662I36100)
Motherboard: Gigabyte Micro ATX 2 x DDR4 DIMM 4 x SATA 6Gb/s Motherboard (GA-H110M-H)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 100R Mid Tower Case
RAM: Ballistix Sport LT 8GB Single DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-19200) DIMM 288-Pin - BLS8G4D240FSB (Gray)
Hard Drive: WD Blue 1TB SATA 6 Gb/s 7200 RPM 64MB Cache 3.5 Inch Desktop Hard Drive (WD10EZEX)
Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB GAMING, ACX 2.0 (Single Fan), 3GB GDDR5, DX12 OSD Support (PXOC) Graphics Cards 03G-P4-6160-KR
Power Supply: EVGA 500 W1, 80+ WHITE 500W Power Supply( 100-W1-0500-KR)



[video="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSTqDqe52sY&t=116s&list=PL8GesDZK5xhMaNa-gn5Yb55hlaAFONWA5&index=3"][/video]

 

[CRO5513Y]

No this is actually a pretty poor choice of parts in my opinion. This would be better at the same price:

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h8zgHN
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/h8zgHN/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.63 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI B250M PRO-VDH Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($69.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: ADATA XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2800 Memory ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $501.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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Changes:

- Same case, could be slightly cheaper but it depends on your preference
- GPU with comparable strength (Mostly stronger now actually) and not lacking in VRAM
- Pentium G4560 offers equal performance to the i3 6100 for cheaper
- Newer B250 board instead of B150 (since it's a 7th gen CPU)
- Same Hard Drive since that's a good choice
- Better and more reliable Power Supply
- Faster RAM (Although you are limited to 2400 on that board, but the price is as low as the 2400 kits so no reason why not)

Hope this helps

 

[madmatt30]

The i3's really aren't worth the bucks anymore when the Pentium g4560 performs within 10% & costs close to half the price.

I'd say the Pentium & a 4gb 480 is THE bang for buck combo when you're fairly budget limited.

Copied from my recommended builds on partpicker (this is a nice black/white combo setup) just to put you in the picture

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.63 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman R1 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $513.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 03:18 EDT-0400

 

[madmatt30]

Yup me & CRO5513Y are in total agreement it seems ;-)

 

[CRO5513Y]

Yup me & CRO5513Y are in total agreement it seems ;-)

Only difference is you went an ATX board and i kept the case in the video (but i would go your build if he isn't insistent on the Corsair 100R)

I wouldn't go as far as to say this guy in the video is making a terrible choice for his viewers but it could certainly use refining and most his choices are outaded for a 2017 build (i3 6100 + B150 mostly). I think he should also look into Power Supplies lol. I would also go the RX 480 over the 3GB 1060 anyday but i guess a lot of viewers might be biased like most the market these days... *have fun when you exceed 3GB, i already do in plenty of games at 1080p*.

 

[smorizio]

i would swap the hard drive out for an ssd and and the hard drive when you have more funds. it not fun moving windows to a new drive and trying to save all the data. i would also wait save money for an i5. if you go cheap g cpu and it bottlenecks your gpu when you replace it for i3 or i5. going to have wasted the 50.00 and you have to be care full of not bending mb cpu slot pins.

 

[madmatt30]

^ my builds just copied rom my lists on partpicker (for someone who wanted a white colour co-ordinated build)

Our builds are essentially the same anyway as you say.

Quite a few comments kind of ripping the guy saying exactly the same - for $500 the pentium + 480 is just unbeatable value.

 

[adiec]

i would swap the hard drive out for an ssd and and the hard drive when you have more funds. it not fun moving windows to a new drive and trying to save all the data. i would also wait save money for an i5. if you go cheap g cpu and it bottlenecks your gpu when you replace it for i3 or i5. going to have wasted the 50.00 and you have to be care full of not bending mb cpu slot pins.

sorry but this is such a negative post.

from your viewpoint then we should all invest in i7 7700s .. because if we wish to upgrade later we may damage our motherboards? the guy/gal is on a budget and choosing to go with the i3 6100 when the g4560 offers similar performance is a no brainer! yes they would be better to go with an i5 but that doesn't fit in the budget .. the i3 is a terrible idea because of the cost compared with the g4560/ every build has a bottleneck and the i3 would perform as the bottleneck in just the same way!

if you can get him an i5 and an rx480 or 1060 within the budget then stick up the build my friend

 

[coocolad]

Yea honestly i'm glad i came here instead of just buying parts without being educated on them and just going on a single videos word, it is very comforting seeing more than one person commenting a similar list of parts. Since i am not insistent on the corsair and it seems you two as well as some video comments agree that the pentium + 480 would be much better option i think i will be leaning more on your build Madmatt. And thank you as well CRO5513Y and everyone else who is offering advice to this newbie.

 

[adiec]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

 

[coocolad]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

Hmm If i go with a build similar or identical to the ones Matt and CRO5513Y had suggested would upgrading to an i5 later down the road be too hard? and would it be that much of a difference on gaming performance?

 

[CRO5513Y]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

I would change that RAM kit... It costs more than both me and Matt's suggestions and it is the same speed (actually slower than the one i listed) as well as costing MORE and being from not well known manufacturer. Here is the one i listed for reference > https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtxfrH/a-data-memory-ax4u2800w4g17drz. Cheaper, better aesthetically, bigger heatsink, reasonably well-known brand and 2800 MHz (yes he will be limited to 2400 but if he ever gets a better board it will be unlocked to him).

 

[CRO5513Y]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

Hmm If i go with a build similar or identical to the ones Matt and CRO5513Y had suggested would upgrading to an i5 later down the road be too hard? and would it be that much of a difference on gaming performance?

Yes you can always just upgrade to an i5 later if your budget is too strict but i suppose it would be easier to just buy one now to save yourself the hassle. Yes an i5 7500 would offer significantly better performance in games especially those that are CPU intensive.

 

[adiec]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

Hmm If i go with a build similar or identical to the ones Matt and CRO5513Y had suggested would upgrading to an i5 later down the road be too hard? and would it be that much of a difference on gaming performance?

it's not difficult , just a case of removing the stock cooler and cleaning the thermal paste off , swapping the cpu for the new cpu , applying new thermal paste (small pea sized blob) , putting the stock cooler back into place and away you go.

i own the g4560 and the rx480 and i would say if the i5 is within your range (budget wise) then go for that from the start because it will help to provide much better frame rates for the rx 480.

i play gta v on the highest settings and get between 30-45 fps but from what i understand the i5 would provide me with double that but i personally am happy because i can play gta v , watch dogs2 , bf1 all on the highest settings @1080p with playable fps of 30fps +

 

[adiec]

this is just to show you a build with an i5 and an rx480. not colour coordinated and not within budget!

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FGNFM8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i5-7500 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Team Dark 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($60.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 480 4GB G1 Gaming Video Card ($179.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 100R ATX Mid Tower Case ($37.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($56.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Total: $647.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 04:09 EDT-0400

I would change that RAM kit... It costs more than both me and Matt's suggestions and it is the same speed (actually slower than the one i listed) as well as costing MORE and being from not well known manufacturer. Here is the one i listed for reference > https://pcpartpicker.com/product/VtxfrH/a-data-memory-ax4u2800w4g17drz. Cheaper, better aesthetically, bigger heatsink, reasonably well-known brand and 2800 MHz (yes he will be limited to 2400 but if he ever gets a better board it will be unlocked to him).

it has lower timings that ram but i wasn't suggesting the build as one to go with .. i was just giving the poster a general idea of what it would cost to go with the i5 + rx480. agree with the suggestion of getting the ram you have posted for future possible upgrades .

 

[madmatt30]

Only issue I have with i5's (the 7400/7500) nownia that the ryzen 1400 is the same price & theoretically is much much more future proof.
Yeah, it can lose slightly in gaming fps currently but it's still an admirable performer & those extra 4 threads for me make it a much more viable option 2 years down the line.

 

[Tetsu_X]

The i3's really aren't worth the bucks anymore when the Pentium g4560 performs within 10% & costs close to half the price.

I'd say the Pentium & a 4gb 480 is THE bang for buck combo when you're fairly budget limited.

Copied from my recommended builds on partpicker (this is a nice black/white combo setup) just to put you in the picture

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor ($59.63 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock B250M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard ($74.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: G.Skill NT Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory ($57.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($47.88 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus Radeon RX 480 4GB Dual Video Card ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Zalman R1 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 520W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($44.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $513.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-04-14 03:18 EDT-0400

Hello madmatt30,

In your opinion, what would be the difference in using a GIGABYTE GA-B250M-DS3H to the Asrock B250M Pro4 that you suggested in that build?
From what I see in this motherboard comparison (http://motherboards.specout.com/compare/6500-6526/GIGABYTE-GA-B250M-DS3H-vs-Asrock-B250M-Pro4), they seem to be farely equal. However, I do not have much knowledge/understadning regarding computer components such as the motherboard.

 

[madmatt30]

Not that much difference mate , the asrock is slightly better quality

 

[coocolad]

As a follow up i am currently posting this on the build you suggested over the Youtubers and i could not be happier, it runs exactly how i hoped it would thank you all so much.

 

[CRO5513Y]

As a follow up i am currently posting this on the build you suggested over the Youtubers and i could not be happier, it runs exactly how i hoped it would thank you all so much.

Nice mate, enjoy!