[SOLVED] This upgrade worth it?

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Hi!

I'm looking to upgrade my currenct system:

i5 4460
8 GB RAM 1600 MHz
GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB

I bought my GPU last year decemver, just before the prices get insane. So I will not upgrade that for a while. I1m looking for new CPU and all the stuff that needs. I also want to move to a new case for mATX, becasue I need more spac eon my desptop and want a case which smaller and easier to acces back I/O ports. Frist of all I watched and read many-many reviews, tests and else. And i stil lhave doubts my planned RIG (see below) will be OK or worth to upgrade.

i3 10100F/i3 10105F
Asus Prime H410M-K R2.0*
2x8 GB Kinston Beast 2666 MHz RAM**
Chieftec CI-02B-OP


*I pick the R2.0 edition becasue it have an Intel H470 chipset
**Kingston Beast are cheaper then HyperX Fury series and it seems same or better RAMs

The rest of the hardwares are:

Asus Geforce GTX 1650 SUPER 4 GB
Crucial BX 100 and BX500, Kingston A400 SSD
LG BD-writer
Seasonic S12 II 620W Bronze PSU

Still I have doubts this upgrade worthy. I planned a 10400F CPU but the price almost the dobules and it also needs B460 motherboard which make the price of this config double.
 
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Well, I'm seeing many motherboards cheaper than that H410, where are you shopping?

I would only buy an i7-4790 this way: Buy a refurbished desktop with one in it, swap in your i5-4460 and re-sell the desktop. You can get whole systems for just under $200, and you can pick up interesting spare parts like 256GB and 512GB SSDs with some of the used business models.

B560 motherboard lets you use XMP profiles, definitely worth it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-10105F 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B560M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($49.97 @ Amazon)...

popatim

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While its not a huge improvement over just up grading to an i7-4790 it will get you to the upgraded processor and all the patches that attempt to remedy side channel hacks as well as the ability to upgrade to Windows 11.

Windows 7 will not run on that system though, so I hope you have win10 already.
 
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A 4790 or a 10100 not a big improvent? I didn't say a word about upgrde my current RIG. My B85 board maybe can't handle a i7 CPU also on other forums aid "not worth spend on a dead system". And actually a 4770-4790 used CPU cost 30% more then a 10100 without warranty.
 

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Warranties are overrated, they likely don't even cover overclocking. To me I would hold off until you want to upgrade your whole rig besides gpu. I wouldn't be overly concerned about windows 11 windows 10 sure.
 

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Well, I'm seeing many motherboards cheaper than that H410, where are you shopping?

I would only buy an i7-4790 this way: Buy a refurbished desktop with one in it, swap in your i5-4460 and re-sell the desktop. You can get whole systems for just under $200, and you can pick up interesting spare parts like 256GB and 512GB SSDs with some of the used business models.

B560 motherboard lets you use XMP profiles, definitely worth it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-10105F 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B560M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $238.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-28 16:27 EDT-0400
 
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g-unit1111

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Warranties are overrated, they likely don't even cover overclocking. To me I would hold off until you want to upgrade your whole rig besides gpu. I wouldn't be overly concerned about windows 11 windows 10 sure.

No, most don't. Warranties only cover manufacturer error, not user error. If something breaks or malfunctions that's a result of their manufacturing process, that's one thing. If something breaks or malfunctions because you did something, that's entirely on you. In other words, you break it, you bought it.
 
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Well, I'm seeing many motherboards cheaper than that H410, where are you shopping?

I would only buy an i7-4790 this way: Buy a refurbished desktop with one in it, swap in your i5-4460 and re-sell the desktop. You can get whole systems for just under $200, and you can pick up interesting spare parts like 256GB and 512GB SSDs with some of the used business models.

B560 motherboard lets you use XMP profiles, definitely worth it.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-10105F 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor ($104.50 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI B560M-A PRO Micro ATX LGA1200 Motherboard ($84.50 @ Amazon)
Memory: Silicon Power 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($49.97 @ Amazon)
Total: $238.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-10-28 16:27 EDT-0400


I buy at my local online shops, looking for the best price in Hungary. Price here is a bit... different. Intel CPUs way cheaper then AMD. That specific motherboard is mor expensive here then the 10105! And I like to follow the advice for motherboard "never spend more to your motherboard then your CPU" thing.


Also it seems my questions are backfired. I seriously can't decide what to do. 7 years ago when I built my current PC I didn't bother that much. I piced up the best CPU I can afford (i5 4460) then look the cheapest motherboard which supports the CPU and my needs (Asus H81). 4 years later I hunted down a better board to support more SATA and DIMM slots (Asus B85-Pro Gamer). Waste of money, since I still use 4 SATA and rock that 2x4 GB RAM I bought back at '14. XD
One and a half years I plan to upgrade my RIG. Since then I pciked up 3-5 variation from Ryzen 2200G to 3600 to 10400F to 9400F - since 300 series board where cheaper then 400 series a while. But since I don't have fix budget my target hardware chance with it's current local prices. AMD CPU prices goes to double, 10th gen Intel are cheaper then 9th
 

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Any B560 board really if you are going for an i3. Heatsinks on the VRMs are preferable, but there are plenty of cheap boards out there that have naked chips. You can always pick up some loose heatsinks and thermal adhesive and stick some on (though really, the price difference should be about the same)

Don't have much visibility into Hungary, but there does seem to be a limited supply of older Ryzen, 9th and 10th gen Intel, and that is about it that I can find.