Build Advice Thoughts on my component choices for a new build ?

[Heat_Fan89]

If you guys have any recommendations regarding the build. let me know!

I just begin my build. Amazon just got a restock of the Ryzen 9800X3D. I picked it up for $479. I plan on pairing it up with the following:

1 - ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Mobo w/ Wifi
2 - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x16GB @ 6000Mhz CL36-44-44-96. I was thinking about getting similar Vengeance sticks @ 6400Mhz but the timings were a little higher CL36-48-48-104.

"let me know if you guys think I should stay with the 6000Mhz DDR5 and the lower timings?"

3 - Seasonic Vertex GX-1000w. I'm undecided whether to go with an RTX 5080 or the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU's but this will give me some headroom.
4 - Artic MX-4 thermal paste (non conductive)
5 - Corsair Nautilus 360 RS liquid cooler.
6 - Fractal North XL Full Tower ATX Case

This build with an RTX5080 will cost me $2220 plus tax. If I decide on the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU that matches the RTX 4080 performance, then this number should fall below $2K.

I already have a spare Gen 4x4 1TB Samsung NVME stick.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

I'm still undecided on the Case Fans and whether to go with RGB or non-RGB so I left that out for now. Noctua or BeQuiet should be good choices.

 

[Bob.B]

If you guys have any recommendations regarding the build. let me know!

I just begin my build. Amazon just got a restock of the Ryzen 9800X3D. I picked it up for $479. I plan on pairing it up with the following:

1 - ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Mobo w/ Wifi
2 - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x16GB @ 6000Mhz CL36-44-44-96. I was thinking about getting similar Vengeance sticks @ 6400Mhz but the timings were a little higher CL36-48-48-104.

"let me know if you guys think I should stay with the 6000Mhz DDR5 and the lower timings?"

3 - Seasonic Vertex GX-1000w. I'm undecided whether to go with an RTX 5080 or the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU's but this will give me some headroom.
4 - Artic MX-4 thermal paste (non conductive)
5 - Corsair Nautilus 360 RS liquid cooler.
6 - Fractal North XL Full Tower ATX Case

This build with an RTX5080 will cost me $2220 plus tax. If I decide on the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU that matches the RTX 4080 performance, then this number should fall below $2K.

I already have a spare Gen 4x4 1TB Samsung NVME stick.

You might want to look through the ram qvl for the mobo and find a set of 6000 cl30.

 

[ohio_buckeye]

If the board is the asus tuf gaming b650 plus wifi, in my opinion that’s a decent board. I have one of those, you’ll likely need to flash the bios for the 9800x3d to work.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

You might want to look through the ram qvl for the mobo and find a set of 6000 cl30.

Thanks for the info. I found these C. Vengeance CL30-36-36-76. I considered the Vengeance 2x32GB but I won't be doing any multitasking, gaming only. The 64GB Kit is $209 vs $99 32GB Kit. Timings are the same for both kits.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0CBRJ63RT/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2Q1LRYTXHYQ2K&th=1

 

[LordVile]

If you guys have any recommendations regarding the build. let me know!

I just begin my build. Amazon just got a restock of the Ryzen 9800X3D. I picked it up for $479. I plan on pairing it up with the following:

1 - ASUS TUF Gaming B650 Mobo w/ Wifi
2 - Corsair Vengeance DDR5 2x16GB @ 6000Mhz CL36-44-44-96. I was thinking about getting similar Vengeance sticks @ 6400Mhz but the timings were a little higher CL36-48-48-104.

"let me know if you guys think I should stay with the 6000Mhz DDR5 and the lower timings?"

3 - Seasonic Vertex GX-1000w. I'm undecided whether to go with an RTX 5080 or the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU's but this will give me some headroom.
4 - Artic MX-4 thermal paste (non conductive)
5 - Corsair Nautilus 360 RS liquid cooler.
6 - Fractal North XL Full Tower ATX Case

This build with an RTX5080 will cost me $2220 plus tax. If I decide on the upcoming AMD Radeon GPU that matches the RTX 4080 performance, then this number should fall below $2K.

I already have a spare Gen 4x4 1TB Samsung NVME stick.

Few things.


The 9800X3D is a little silly, it’s not much better than the 7800X3D but it is more expensive. You’re bette roof putting the money knock CL30 RAM.

You are getting a 360mm AIO you do not need case fans. You might need one if the case doesn’t already come with one in the rear.


The fractal north line is an extremely overpriced case series and this is coming from an ITX guy.


What are you actually wanting to do?

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Few things.


The 9800X3D is a little silly, it’s not much better than the 7800X3D but it is more expensive. You’re bette roof putting the money knock CL30 RAM.

You are getting a 360mm AIO you do not need case fans. You might need one if the case doesn’t already come with one in the rear.


The fractal north line is an extremely overpriced case series and this is coming from an ITX guy.


What are you actually wanting to do?

If i'm building with the latest, then everything in the build will be the latest. In fact i'm now going with the 9900X3D when it is released.

I'm leaning on an RTX 5080 and possibly a 5090 depends on availability but that could change when AMD releases their next gen GPU's. My concern with the 5xxx series are the burned cables reappearing. Nvidia said they fixed the problems but I guess not.

I love the look of the Fractal North XL. It looks different, like furniture. I don't mind paying for that.

As noted in a previous comment, yes I have a 32GB 6000Mhz CL30-36-36-76 in my config.

Regarding case fans, thanks and noted, that makes sense.

100% gaming, targeting 4K with a solid 60FPS. Settings either very high or maxed.

 

[LordVile]

If i'm building with the latest, then everything in the build will be the latest. In fact i'm now going with the 9900X3D when it is released.

I'm leaning on an RTX 5080 and possibly a 5090 depends on availability but that could change when AMD releases their next gen GPU's. My concern with the 5xxx series are the burned cables reappearing. Nvidia said they fixed the problems but I guess not.

I love the look of the Fractal North XL. It looks different, like furniture. I don't mind paying for that.

As noted in a previous comment, yes I have a 32GB 6000Mhz CL30-36-36-76 in my config.

Regarding case fans, thanks and noted, that makes sense.

100% gaming, targeting 4K with a solid 60FPS. Settings either very high or maxed.

What’s the point in being obsessed with the latest that won’t be the latest in 6 months where there will actually be improvements? At 1080p the 9800 and 7800 3D chips are both bumping up against a GPU limit with a 4090 and you’re playing at 4K, you could be running a 7600 and the performance would be the same. They’re on the same platform with the same end point anyway.

I haven’t really had a look but are there any models from AIB partners that run 8 pins?

I’d have a look at the non XL version as the XL is for E-ATX boards so standard boards will look comically small.

 

[Heat_Fan89]

What’s the point in being obsessed with the latest that won’t be the latest in 6 months where there will actually be improvements? At 1080p the 9800 and 7800 3D chips are both bumping up against a GPU limit with a 4090 and you’re playing at 4K, you could be running a 7600 and the performance would be the same. They’re on the same platform with the same end point anyway.

I haven’t really had a look but are there any models from AIB partners that run 8 pins?

I’d have a look at the non XL version as the XL is for E-ATX boards so standard boards will look comically small.

I will be using a full ATX mobo and it has a mesh side panel so not much to see inside which is why i'm going with non RGB memory and AIO cooler. I've worn tired of the lighting bling. At first I lowered all the lights then turned them off completely.

I don't want ANY bottlenecks between the CPU/GPU in the event I decide to upgrade the GPU in the next few years. It was a question I asked a couple of years ago on Tom's and I was told even if you are doing 4K, a slower CPU could bottleneck the much faster GPU when doing an upgrade in the future. I have the money so it's not a problem.

 

[LordVile]

I will be using a full ATX mobo and it has a mesh side panel so not much to see inside which is why i'm going with non RGB memory and AIO cooler. I've worn tired of the lighting bling. At first I lowered all the lights then turned them off completely.

I don't want ANY bottlenecks between the CPU/GPU in the event I decide to upgrade the GPU in the next few years. It was a question I asked a couple of years ago on Tom's and I was told even if you are doing 4K, a slower CPU could bottleneck the much faster GPU when doing an upgrade in the future. I have the money so it's not a problem.

A full ATX isn’t the same as an EATX.

At 4K you won’t run into a CPU bottleneck, the CPU is good for hundreds of FPS at lower resolutions, the GPU just isn’t capable of that at 4K and GPU improvements generation over generation are dwindling.

Having something doesn’t mean you have to waste it

 

[Heat_Fan89]

A full ATX isn’t the same as an EATX.

At 4K you won’t run into a CPU bottleneck, the CPU is good for hundreds of FPS at lower resolutions, the GPU just isn’t capable of that at 4K and GPU improvements generation over generation are dwindling.

Having something doesn’t mean you have to waste it

This was the thread I started and the back and forth exchange I had. Some said no impact on bottlenecks and others said STOP, get a better CPU cause i'd be wasting my money.

Question - Is it Wise To Pair A i9-10850K With A 7900 XT Instead of 4090?

I went to a website that calculates CPU/GPU bottlenecks and according to them, if I pair my 10850K with a 6950XT, it will produce over 10% CPU bottleneck at 4K. I thought that was a little high since it was released in the same generation as my RTX 3080. My 10850K is essentially a slightly...

forums.tomshardware.com

 

[Heat_Fan89]

Hey, it looks like you're building an awesome system! You’ve already chosen some solid components, but I have a few thoughts and suggestions:

Ryzen 9800X3D: Great choice! The 9800X3D is a powerhouse, especially for gaming and multi-threaded workloads. The performance gains are noticeable, particularly with the 3D V-Cache. Make sure your cooler is up to the task!

Memory (Corsair Vengeance DDR5 6000MHz): I would suggest sticking with the 6000MHz sticks with the lower timings (CL36-44-44-96). Lower latency generally gives better performance, especially with Ryzen systems, which can benefit from tighter timings. If you want to future-proof your build, you could go with 6400MHz, but the higher latency might impact real-world performance a bit more than the MHz difference helps, so you’re probably better off with the 6000MHz at lower timings.

Power Supply (Seasonic Vertex GX-1000w): A 1000W PSU should be more than enough for your build, even with an RTX 5080 or AMD GPU. Seasonic is a reputable brand, so you're in good hands. Just make sure to account for any additional power needs as you upgrade your system over time (fans, peripherals, etc.).

GPU (RTX 5080 vs AMD Radeon): If you’re considering the RTX 5080, it will definitely give you fantastic ray tracing performance and AI-powered unlimited features like DLSS, which is a huge plus for gaming. However, if AMD’s next-gen GPU comes close to the performance of the RTX 4080, it could be a solid choice and might offer better value. It all comes down to whether you prioritize features like ray tracing or raw performance. AMD’s RDNA 3 cards are expected to offer strong competition, so it’s worth waiting for a review or benchmark comparison.

Cooler (Corsair Nautilus 360 RS): The 360mm AIO cooler is great for keeping that Ryzen 9800X3D cool under heavy loads. If you’re planning to overclock, this cooler should have more than enough headroom. Just make sure your case has enough space for the radiator. The Fractal North XL should be fine with the cooler size.

Thermal Paste (Arctic MX-4): Arctic MX-4 is a solid choice! It’s non-conductive, performs well, and doesn’t break the bank. You could go for thermal paste with even lower thermal resistance, like Noctua NT-H2 or Thermal Grizzly, if you really want to squeeze out every bit of cooling potential, but MX-4 is definitely reliable.

Case (Fractal North XL Full Tower): Fractal makes fantastic cases, and the North XL should provide excellent airflow and space for your build. It looks sleek, and the airflow should support all of your components well.

Thanks for the confirmation. I usually go 6-8 years between complete builds. My problem was that due to Crypto's and the pandemic supplies were tight so I had to go the prebuilt system route. I have always built my own gaming rigs and much prefer that approach.

That's why I am waiting to see the best AMD GPU and what performance levels they offer. I'd rather give them my money than Nvidia. Team Green is a little out of control with their near monopoly on high end GPU's.

Besides Ray Tracing does and adds nothing to my gaming experience. Fast and fluid FPS, does.

 

[LordVile]

This was the thread I started and the back and forth exchange I had. Some said no impact on bottlenecks and others said STOP, get a better CPU cause i'd be wasting my money.

Question - Is it Wise To Pair A i9-10850K With A 7900 XT Instead of 4090?

I went to a website that calculates CPU/GPU bottlenecks and according to them, if I pair my 10850K with a 6950XT, it will produce over 10% CPU bottleneck at 4K. I thought that was a little high since it was released in the same generation as my RTX 3080. My 10850K is essentially a slightly...

forums.tomshardware.com

Literally the first post complete with receipts:

“The higher the resolution (and/or detail settings), the more workload/bottleneck will fall on the GPU. Conversely, this is why you'll primarily see CPU benchmarks using 1080p and the fastest available GPU to expose any/all differences between CPUs.”

They showed you that from the 7600X to an overlocked 13900K there was a 10-15% variance at 1440p with the 4090, at 4K this will drop even further because your limiting factor is the GPU. At 4K you will always be GPU limited and as long as the CPU is not anemic you will be fine, again you can extract 90% of the performance of a 4090 at 1080p with a 7600X, at 4K the difference between the 7600X and the 9800X3D will be margin of error.

Some people being fools doesn’t make a CPU the limiting factor at 4K. Again assuming you’re not on a 6600K

 

[logainofhades]

I would find a B850 board instead. No bios updates needed. Make sure the ram you get is an EXPO kit. You want ddr5 6000 CL30. I would recommend G-skill FlareX or Z5 Neo, over corsair.