Thoughts on this CAD/gaming build?

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Hi,

I will (hopefully) start studying aerospace engineering at the end of this year so I want to be able to run engineering software e.g. Solidworks, Matlab etc. I'll also be doing some gaming and maybe a little coding. I'll also be taking this between home and university, which is why I've picked an matx case.

Budget: £1600, I could stretch this if I really had to. (Includes monitor and keyboard)

After taking some advice, I came up with this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel - Core i5-8600K 3.6GHz 6-Core Processor (£215.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! - Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (£59.95 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: MSI - Z370M GAMING PRO AC Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (£140.67 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-2666 Memory (£165.59 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Samsung - 960 EVO 250GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive (£102.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital - BLACK SERIES 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£62.39 @ Aria PC)
Case: Fractal Design - Define Mini C MicroATX Mid Tower Case (£66.74 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply (£74.99 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: ViewSonic - XG2402 24.0" 1920x1080 144Hz Monitor (£244.00 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £1133.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-03-13 00:07 GMT+0000


I also pre-ordered an Asus dual gtx 1070 O8G from amazon for £480 after hearing that graphics card prices aren't going to drop for a long time and it seems pretty cheap compared to other 1070s at the moment. (I could still cancel this if needed though).

I already own a 3TB external hard drive but it's only 5400rpm - could I make do with this and put the money into a bigger ssd?

Also what do you think of the mobo? There doesn't seem to be much choice at the moment and I will need to be able to use wifi.

I'd really appreciate any suggestions to decrease the price or any general feedback, thanks.
 
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Depends on the game. Some swear by a 144Hz monitor for the really fast paced stuff like GTA:V etc, but with a 1070 there's going to be several games at which under ultra graphics you simply won't hit 144fps, you'll more likely be averaging @100fps. The difference being vsync (or its varients). Many intensive games that'll be a non-existent thing, you'll not hit refresh, which you would on a slower monitor.

Coming from 1080p/60Hz on a gtx970, I'll say everything I play is buttery smooth, no artifacts, tearing, stuttering, but my gaming style doesn't incline me towards GTA:V either. But mine is only one opinion, you might want to check up on other threads about this.

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As a Cad and gaming pc its not bad, actually pretty good. However since your getting a k scew CPU and a z370 board as well as a big cooler, i'm expecting you to overclock the CPU right? If you didn't want to game on this also, I would say you can get a Firepro or FireGL card from AMD, they tend to be pretty cheap and handle CAD and Solidworks better than a more expensive gaming card, however they suck for gaming.
 
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Yeah that's the plan. I read that a gaming card would be able to handle CAD well enough for my degree. Once the CPU is overclocked would I see much difference using a gaming card instead?
 

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Well, an overclocked CPU will help a lot in gaming, and it should help in loading large models faster, but with a gaming card the graphics won't look as "smooth" as it would with a WS (workstation) card, since most gaming cards can't show the really nice graphics that a WS card can. In other words, a WS card like a FirePro, FireGL, Titan, and Quadro cards, can show nicer looking images and should load faster than a gaming card, but they should both work.
Edit: To make it simpler, FirePro and FireGL cards show much more detail then a gaming card would and tend to run moving models smoother.
 

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I'd change 1 thing. I'd move upto a 27" monitor. Running CAD or other engineering stuff, you'll be looking at blueprints, wire frames etc. A bigger screen will just make that so much easier to guage finer details. I've been to the Cracker Barrel corporate offices and their engineering dept uses nothing smaller than a 30". I'd sacrifice the 144Hz 1080p for a 27" 1440p @75Hz.
 
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Thanks for clearing that up :D Is there anything else I could change that would improve my performance (without going over budget?)
 

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Well, if you still want to do any gaming on it at all, then no. Looks pretty good to me.
 
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To be honest I went with the smaller screen due to the price. Would I lose out on gaming with only 75Hz?
 
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Ok, thanks a lot for your responses :D
 

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No problem have fun
 

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Depends on the game. Some swear by a 144Hz monitor for the really fast paced stuff like GTA:V etc, but with a 1070 there's going to be several games at which under ultra graphics you simply won't hit 144fps, you'll more likely be averaging @100fps. The difference being vsync (or its varients). Many intensive games that'll be a non-existent thing, you'll not hit refresh, which you would on a slower monitor.

Coming from 1080p/60Hz on a gtx970, I'll say everything I play is buttery smooth, no artifacts, tearing, stuttering, but my gaming style doesn't incline me towards GTA:V either. But mine is only one opinion, you might want to check up on other threads about this.
 
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Ok I'll definitely look into getting the larger monitor, thanks for the advice :D