Hello there,
I have an older laptop, an HP 6730s manufactured in 2008 I think, which generally works fine. But I have noticed that there are some issues related to heat. This is apparent when I watch Youtube or stream an online sports match. It works fine generally, and it usually runs a 720p youtube video rather nicely. However, sometimes even a 720p starts to stutter even as temperatures remain below 70 degrees Celsius. I investigated the matter and I found out that my particular CPU model, the 2 GHZ T5870, should withstand a maximum operating temperature of 100°C. I have reached perhaps 80°C - 81°C when my laptop was at its dustiest and throttling and sudden shutdowns were pervasive. These temperatures were reached by merely running a Youtube video.
Those were truly dark times.
I disassembled the computer and cleaned everything and changed thermal paste on both cpu and the integrated graphics unit. The improvement was noticeable in performance and the cooling fan was much quieter than before. Yet, it still tended to start stuttering if it reached beyond 65°C. And occasionally it would again overheat, even though it generally ran cooler and quieter.
That was three months ago. Today I disassembled it again and found some dust bunnies in the heatsink again, while the fan was rather clean. I cleaned everything again, except this time I didn't touch the cpu and Intel gpu. I left those as they were and cleaned every other component.
After reassembly I ran some Youtube videos and it worked fine in 720p but it stuttered in 720p60.
That is when I learned that frames per second also play a role in the resolution. I never knew that, I just assumed that a 720p video is the same as another in the same resolution.
Interestingly, it can run nicely a 1080p30 youtube video.
I still notice that over time, if I leave it running Youtube video after video, sometimes for hours, the temperature slowly creeps up over the hours and if it goes above 60°C it starts to show, ever so slightly, signs of stuttering even though the CPU temperature remains far below the thermal juncture of 100°C. And if it goes much above 60°C like 65°C then the problem becomes more noticeable. Even before I performed the second cleaning today I think it never reached above 65°C in regular use as described above. But still, stutters over 60° C puzzle me. This is the case even if the resolution is not with 'p60' suffix.
It usually idles at around anywhere from 40°C to 50°C. I guess it depends on environmetal factors as well.
I also ran a Prime95 program to burden the entire computer to see the temperatures after the today's cleaning, though only for 35 minutes, and the maximum temperature the CPU reached was 70°C but it was mostly around 68°-69° with occasional dips to 67°C.
None of this is actually a horrible problem for me, but I am rather curious about what you, people who are well versed in computers, make of this.
I have been thinking about this lately. It is an old laptop and it seems to me that the ventilation for this particular model is rather lacking since it likes to heat up and is rather laborious to take apart and put back together. I honestly think I did an adequate job applying the paste but again it is possible I made a mistake. But even if that were the case why would it experience problems at over 30°C lower than TJ temperature?
So the question(s) is (are): Why does CPU tends to throttle above 60something degrees when running a Youtube video, for example, if it is still well below its maximum operating temperature? Or is the integrated graphics that acts as a chokepoint? Or perhaps motherboard?
Here are some of the basic specifications:
T5870 2GHZ CPU
4GB DDR2 RAM (upgraded from 2GB)
INTEL GMA 4500MHD integrated graphics
250GB Fujitsu HDD
I also apparently lost a screw when I reassembled it. (This has no bearing on anything, I simply wanted to share my pain.)
As is evident with my resolution revelations described above there is much I don't know so I thank you for any insights you can offer.
I have an older laptop, an HP 6730s manufactured in 2008 I think, which generally works fine. But I have noticed that there are some issues related to heat. This is apparent when I watch Youtube or stream an online sports match. It works fine generally, and it usually runs a 720p youtube video rather nicely. However, sometimes even a 720p starts to stutter even as temperatures remain below 70 degrees Celsius. I investigated the matter and I found out that my particular CPU model, the 2 GHZ T5870, should withstand a maximum operating temperature of 100°C. I have reached perhaps 80°C - 81°C when my laptop was at its dustiest and throttling and sudden shutdowns were pervasive. These temperatures were reached by merely running a Youtube video.
Those were truly dark times.
I disassembled the computer and cleaned everything and changed thermal paste on both cpu and the integrated graphics unit. The improvement was noticeable in performance and the cooling fan was much quieter than before. Yet, it still tended to start stuttering if it reached beyond 65°C. And occasionally it would again overheat, even though it generally ran cooler and quieter.
That was three months ago. Today I disassembled it again and found some dust bunnies in the heatsink again, while the fan was rather clean. I cleaned everything again, except this time I didn't touch the cpu and Intel gpu. I left those as they were and cleaned every other component.
After reassembly I ran some Youtube videos and it worked fine in 720p but it stuttered in 720p60.
That is when I learned that frames per second also play a role in the resolution. I never knew that, I just assumed that a 720p video is the same as another in the same resolution.
Interestingly, it can run nicely a 1080p30 youtube video.
I still notice that over time, if I leave it running Youtube video after video, sometimes for hours, the temperature slowly creeps up over the hours and if it goes above 60°C it starts to show, ever so slightly, signs of stuttering even though the CPU temperature remains far below the thermal juncture of 100°C. And if it goes much above 60°C like 65°C then the problem becomes more noticeable. Even before I performed the second cleaning today I think it never reached above 65°C in regular use as described above. But still, stutters over 60° C puzzle me. This is the case even if the resolution is not with 'p60' suffix.
It usually idles at around anywhere from 40°C to 50°C. I guess it depends on environmetal factors as well.
I also ran a Prime95 program to burden the entire computer to see the temperatures after the today's cleaning, though only for 35 minutes, and the maximum temperature the CPU reached was 70°C but it was mostly around 68°-69° with occasional dips to 67°C.
None of this is actually a horrible problem for me, but I am rather curious about what you, people who are well versed in computers, make of this.
I have been thinking about this lately. It is an old laptop and it seems to me that the ventilation for this particular model is rather lacking since it likes to heat up and is rather laborious to take apart and put back together. I honestly think I did an adequate job applying the paste but again it is possible I made a mistake. But even if that were the case why would it experience problems at over 30°C lower than TJ temperature?
So the question(s) is (are): Why does CPU tends to throttle above 60something degrees when running a Youtube video, for example, if it is still well below its maximum operating temperature? Or is the integrated graphics that acts as a chokepoint? Or perhaps motherboard?
Here are some of the basic specifications:
T5870 2GHZ CPU
4GB DDR2 RAM (upgraded from 2GB)
INTEL GMA 4500MHD integrated graphics
250GB Fujitsu HDD
I also apparently lost a screw when I reassembled it. (This has no bearing on anything, I simply wanted to share my pain.)
As is evident with my resolution revelations described above there is much I don't know so I thank you for any insights you can offer.