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I am getting a new card
since i m on a tight budget.......
can ne one order em ..ie in creasing order of performance

1) sapphire 9500
2)digiclor ti 4200
3)9600
4) 9500 pro
5)9600 pro
 

Nights_L

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Radeon9500Pro > Radeon9600Pro > Ti4200 > Radeon9600 = Radeon9500

that's in term of <b>performance</b>
means that Ti4200 should be faster..from what I know, but it missed of DX9 supports, the equal sign means that they should perform around the same..9600 should be slighly better since it's a newer one and clocked higher
Among this card, I would recommend Radeon9600Pro, by overclocking it, you could gain more than a 9500Pro can give you, also cuz Ti4200 is some what old, if you are getting a new card, i would say avoid that, but if it's meet your needs, then it's great choice as well
 

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Sure dude!

1. Ti4200
2. 9600
3. 9500
4. 9600 Pro
5. 9500 Pro

The 9600 Pro or the Ti 4200 would be the best values. If you can go for the 9600 Pro. The Ti4200 can beat some of the others you mentioned in DirectX8 titles but will not be the case in DX9 titles like Half-Life 2. Like I said, if you can, go forthe 9600 Pro.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!
 

cleeve

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More like:

2. 9500 = 9600 = Ti4200
1. 9600 PRO = 9500 PRO

really, the 9500/9600/Ti4200 are quite close in performance and will win some/lose some.
9500/9600 tend to be better with AA and ansio and DirectX 9, 4200 tends to be better with raw framerates and pricing.

If you can afford it, go 9500 PRO or 9600 PRO.

If you can't, you can probably afford the Ti4200 because it's the cheapest of the midrange cards... you should be able to score one for around $80.

But for a few bucks more it might be worth it to you to get a 9500/9600 non pro because they have excellent DX9 pixel and vertex shaders for future games.

If you get a 9500 non-pro, there is about a 50% chance you can mod it to a 9500 PRO. Even if it doesn't mod, you can overclock them very well.

I think the 9500 non-pro is the underrated budget champ myself. It's 95% as good as the Geforce4 Ti4200 in most situations, better when using AA and ansio, and it has the possibility of modding to a 9500 PRO by simply installing a special driver.

How can you lose?

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AMD AthlonXP 2000+
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HarrY

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Thx guys!!!

I live right next door to hell........

here the price of a 9500 is less than that of Ti 4200 by quite a margin !
so i think ill go for a saphire 9500 128 mb compared to
XfX ti 4200 128 mb.
as for 9500 pro and 9600 pro are difficult to find :(

abt the dx 9 games........the first one i think wud be Hl2
i m not much of a overclocker.......will it run happily
w/o AA in 1024 w/o AA?

and abt modding.....how difficult is it..hehe might give it
try in worst case.

thx for replying
 

HarrY

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forgot to add .......what does 50 % chance mean ...?

the driver wont fry my card......right!!!

i had read somewhere that ati had released a 9500 non pro n it had some bug or somethin when it was cracked the performance was similar to 9700...........was it the 9500
or some other card or was it a beautiful dream......plz tell me it wasnt :p
 

cleeve

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Modding is the easiest thing in the world. All you have to do is install the Omega softmod drivers.

If the mod causes artifacts (about 50% of the time), you can uninstall the drivers and the card will work fine. You will still be able to overclock it.

If you are lucky enough to find a 128 mb radeon 9500 with the memory in an "L" shape (and not a straight line), the card will mod to a radeon 9700! If the memory is in a straight line, the card will still mod to a 9500 PRO.

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HarrY

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Thx cleeve...........u just made my day man :D

one more thing.........have u made a s/w mod or a h/w mod?
coz i wont try the h/w mod for sure.....and do the recent drivers try to disable the exploit

MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
MUST FIND MEMORY IN "L" SHAPE!!!
 

cleeve

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I am currently using the software mod, but since it worked I will be hardware modding the card in the future.

New drivers *may* try to remove the exploit (although it has been around for a long time and has been ignored so far) but even if they do you should be able to use older mod drivers.

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AMD AthlonXP 2000+
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