Build Advice Time for a new build! (3k-4k USD)

[Emelth]

Wow, haven't been on here for a couple of years. Had a kid, became hella busy with work but and now I am back because it's time to do a new build! The current setup is from 2018. It is an i7 8700K with a GTX 1080. Running a dual monitor setup Rog Swift 27" 1440p. Haven't decided to jump up to 4k or not so let me hear what y'all think.

Cost: $3k - 4k (not including monitor/peripherals if it is "worth" moving up to 4k)
Location: FL, USA

I do have a microcenter that is 5 hours away so if I need to drive for a great deal and hit up IKEA for an update on my battlestation, it can be done XD
I play CoD, I use OBS to record videos and upload them. Other games I play are WoW, Monster Hunter, ARK Ascended (this is the true reason why I need to upgrade, damn game is ROUGH with the GTX 1080), and Final Fantasy.

I dabble with photography and use Lightroom. I need Bluetooth for using my Elite 2 controller and I would love to be able to connect to my living room tv and be able to stream movies/videos just don't know what I need for that.

 

[Why_Me]

Your budget is large enough that you could build two separate PC's. One for gaming and one for streaming using an Elgato capture card. That way you wouldn't take the hit in frame rates. If you play CoD then stick to 1440P so that you maintain a decent amount of frames per second.

Add the RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB to this build when that card is released within the next two weeks.
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/geforce-rtx-40-super-series

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=566

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ B&H)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($123.94 @ Walmart)
Total: $1335.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-13 23:50 EST-0500

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...formance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K

https://www.samsung.com/us/computin.../980-pro-pcie-4-0-nvme-ssd-1tb-mz-v8p1t0b-am/

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5

LANCOOL 216 - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

LANCOOL 216 AIRFLOW FOCUS The LANCOOL 216 is a mainstream case that features all-around mesh panels for optimal airflow. Thanks to its modular rear panel, it can be optimized for air cooling or water cooling. It includes 2 x 160mm and 1 x 140mm pre-installed PWM fans and an innovative rear PCIe...

lian-li.com

 

[Why_Me]

Streaming PC

NVIDIA NVENC Obs Guide

Configure OBS to get the most quality out of your stream.

www.nvidia.com

The 120mm fan goes inside the back of that case for an exhaust fan.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO B760-P WIFI DDR4 ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: *TEAMGROUP T-Force Vulcan Z 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: *MSI VENTUS 2X BLACK OC GeForce RTX 4060 8 GB Video Card ($299.99 @ B&H)
Case: *Fractal Design Focus 2 ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($89.90 @ Newegg Sellers)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($123.94 @ Walmart)
Case Fan: *ARCTIC P12 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fan ($9.17 @ Amazon)
Total: $1197.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-13 23:46 EST-0500

Add this to that build

https://www.elgato.com/us/en/p/game-capture-4k60-pro

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c0WlDUrKa0

 

[Emelth]

Your budget is large enough that you could build two separate PC's. One for gaming and one for streaming using an Elgato capture card. That way you wouldn't take the hit in frame rates. If you play CoD then stick to 1440P so that you maintain a decent amount of frames per second.

Add the RTX 4070 Ti Super 16GB to this build when that card is released within the next two weeks.
https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/geforce-rtx-40-super-series

https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#c=566

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: *Intel Core i7-13700 2.1 GHz 16-Core Processor ($369.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: *Deepcool AK620 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: *MSI PRO Z790-A WIFI ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($219.99 @ B&H)
Memory: *G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 500 GB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: *Samsung 980 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($159.99 @ Best Buy)
Case: *Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($96.99 @ B&H)
Power Supply: *MSI MAG A850GL PCIE5 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($119.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: *Microsoft Windows 11 Home Retail - Download 64-bit ($123.94 @ Walmart)
Total: $1335.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-13 23:50 EST-0500

A better look at those components.

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/PRO-Z790-A-WIFI

https://www.intel.com/content/www/u...-30m-cache-up-to-5-20-ghz/specifications.html

https://www.deepcool.com/products/C...formance-CPU-Cooler-1700-AM5/2021/13067.shtml

https://www.gskill.com/product/165/377/1649234797/F5-6000J3040F16GX2-RS5K-F5-6000J3040F16GA2-RS5K

https://www.samsung.com/us/computin.../980-pro-pcie-4-0-nvme-ssd-1tb-mz-v8p1t0b-am/

https://www.msi.com/Power-Supply/MAG-A850GL-PCIE5

LANCOOL 216 - LIAN LI is a Leading Provider of PC Cases | Computer Cases

LANCOOL 216 AIRFLOW FOCUS The LANCOOL 216 is a mainstream case that features all-around mesh panels for optimal airflow. Thanks to its modular rear panel, it can be optimized for air cooling or water cooling. It includes 2 x 160mm and 1 x 140mm pre-installed PWM fans and an innovative rear PCIe...

lian-li.com

I'm not streaming like that or have the want to journey down that path. I am just posting them on my personal FB page, just random shenanigans the boys and I do/run into while playing. If I was a streamer or content creator I could most definitely see the benefit of running two PCs. But for little old me, nah I'm good on that. Plus if I wanted to go that route wouldn't I be able to use my current PC (i7 8700k & GTX 1080) as the "streaming"?

 

[Lucky_SLS]

The 4080 Super is more than enough for a single 2k monitor.

Gigabyte Gaming OC or MSI Gaming X trio are good options.

Ryzen 7800X3D 4090 build suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO 69 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Renegade Silver 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($89.71 @ Amazon)
Storage: HP FX900 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF Gaming OG OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1819.99 @ ASUS)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2918.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-15 08:14 EST-0500

 

[Emelth]

The 4080 Super is more than enough for a single 2k monitor.

Gigabyte Gaming OC or MSI Gaming X trio are good options.

Ryzen 7800X3D 4090 build suggestion:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.00 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO 69 CFM CPU Cooler ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Kingston Renegade Silver 16 GB (1 x 16 GB) DDR5-6400 CL32 Memory ($89.71 @ Amazon)
Storage: HP FX900 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Asus TUF Gaming OG OC GeForce RTX 4090 24 GB Video Card ($1819.99 @ ASUS)
Case: be quiet! Pure Base 500DX ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.90 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2918.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-15 08:14 EST-0500

Never thought about getting a 4090, especially once you add all the extra case fans and wiring.

Haven't used an AMD processor for over 10 years. How is it compared to the i7 and even heard about the new i9?

Came across the HYTE Y70 case, that thing looks awesome but damn is it expensive for just a case. However, for someone who has never done or knows how to do that screen mod, it is tempting. I am more of a Corsair fan.

If I wanted to attempt to do a custom loop what would that look like cost-wise?

 

[punkncat]

Not trying to be too nosy, but if you are in Florida the nearest Microcenter to you is Marietta, GA. Even if you were right on the line to get there in five hours is worthy of a Bandit Run or Cannonball, lol.

IMO, unless you are in the market for a very generic out of the box solution, there is zero reason to spend time driving to MC. I actually hate to hear myself say that. They dropped the $20 off compatible motherboard on everything except very specific combinations of parts (particularly motherboards) of a level I am not looking at....and at this price neither are you. There is some savings to be had on CPU for sure. Without the combo deal their motherboard pricing and nearly everything else outside a "special" deal can be had with free delivery. Add time and gas and as far as I am concerned it would take something more exceptional than what they offer outside of needing it in hand within the day.

 

[Lucky_SLS]

Never thought about getting a 4090, especially once you add all the extra case fans and wiring.

Haven't used an AMD processor for over 10 years. How is it compared to the i7 and even heard about the new i9?

Came across the HYTE Y70 case, that thing looks awesome but damn is it expensive for just a case. However, for someone who has never done or knows how to do that screen mod, it is tempting. I am more of a Corsair fan.

If I wanted to attempt to do a custom loop what would that look like cost-wise?

Seems like 4080 blocks are compatible with super cards:

EK Confirms Compatibility with GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER GPUs - ekwb.com

EK®, the renowned pioneer in premium liquid cooling, announces full compatibility with the newly launched GeForce RTX™ 40 SUPER series graphics cards powered by NVIDIA® Ada Lovelace architecture. With the launch of the new GPU and all vendor partners announcing their complete lists of the...

www.ekwb.com

GPU Water block: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/...l-core-geforce-rtx-4080-suprim-with-backplate

Pump res combo: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/...glas-250mm-incl.-alphacool-vpp-apex-d5?c=1501

CPU block: https://www.corsair.com/uk/en/p/cus...cd-cpu-water-block-stealth-gray-cx-9010023-ww

2 X 360 rads: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/...exxxos-xt45-full-copper-360mm-radiator?c=1480

Fittings: https://shop.alphacool.com/en/shop/fittings/

If you want a local source: https://www.performance-pcs.com/water-cooling.html

Core PC parts:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 4.2 GHz 8-Core Processor ($394.00 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte B650 AORUS ELITE AX ATX AM5 Motherboard ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: HP FX900 Pro 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($114.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GAMING X SLIM GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16 GB Video Card ($1200.00)
Case: HYTE Y70 Touch ATX Mid Tower Case ($360.00)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2428.88
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-16 04:23 EST-0500

 

[Emelth]

Not trying to be too nosy, but if you are in Florida the nearest Microcenter to you is Marietta, GA. Even if you were right on the line to get there in five hours is worthy of a Bandit Run or Cannonball, lol.

IMO, unless you are in the market for a very generic out of the box solution, there is zero reason to spend time driving to MC. I actually hate to hear myself say that. They dropped the $20 off compatible motherboard on everything except very specific combinations of parts (particularly motherboards) of a level I am not looking at....and at this price neither are you. There is some savings to be had on CPU for sure. Without the combo deal their motherboard pricing and nearly everything else outside a "special" deal can be had with free delivery. Add time and gas and as far as I am concerned it would take something more exceptional than what they offer outside of needing it in hand within the day.

Jacksonville MC and the one in Marietta are BOTH 5 hours away from me. Looks like the one in Jacksonville is no longer popping up on Google Maps so that one might have closed. It is a fun run from the Florida/Bama line...
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10226901690185005&set=a.2780418266355

If the "In-Store" deals are no longer as good as they used to be then yes I can see it being not as worth it to go anymore. I remember the deals being almost $100 cheaper than anything online for a combo deal on CPU/MOBO.


@Lucky_SLS so it looks like close to $800+ USD for a watercooled setup. I knew it was going to get more expensive if I went this route which is why I wasnt thinking of getting the 4090. I still want to wait to see what the 4080 super gets on benchmarks to see which would be the best way to spend it.

 

[punkncat]

Jacksonville MC and the one in Marietta are BOTH 5 hours away from me. Looks like the one in Jacksonville is no longer popping up on Google Maps so that one might have closed. It is a fun run from the Florida/Bama line...
https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10226901690185005&set=a.2780418266355

If the "In-Store" deals are no longer as good as they used to be then yes I can see it being not as worth it to go anymore. I remember the deals being almost $100 cheaper than anything online for a combo deal on CPU/MOBO.

Sounds like that puts you pretty close to PCB. Hope you didn't catch any damage from that storm last week.

They, much like Newegg, have started doing these bundle deals. The pricing on those is enticing, but the biggest shortcoming as I mentioned above is the poor choice of motherboard they are packaging those deals with. Previously, you got to pick your own compatible motherboard which helped a lot on the feature and aesthetics department.
The way traffic has been here in the ATL my nearest store at Marietta generally turns into two hours one way. Where I used to go there for pretty much any cpu/mobo deal I now tend to watch pricing on the Jungle site much more.

 

[Emelth]

Sounds like that puts you pretty close to PCB. Hope you didn't catch any damage from that storm last week.

They, much like Newegg, have started doing these bundle deals. The pricing on those is enticing, but the biggest shortcoming as I mentioned above is the poor choice of motherboard they are packaging those deals with. Previously, you got to pick your own compatible motherboard which helped a lot on the feature and aesthetics department.
The way traffic has been here in the ATL my nearest store at Marietta generally turns into two hours one way. Where I used to go there for pretty much any cpu/mobo deal I now tend to watch pricing on the Jungle site much more.

I've never heard of Jungle before but I definitely will be heading to good to see what it is about

 

[logainofhades]

Blizzard titles tend to prefer AMD cards, these days. The 4090 is a nice card, but not worth twice the price, over a 7900xtx.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 4.2 GHz 16-Core Processor ($648.36 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Deepcool AK620 ZERO DARK 68.99 CFM CPU Cooler ($59.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock X670E Steel Legend ATX AM5 Motherboard ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Flare X5 64 GB (2 x 32 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory ($199.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($113.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: TEAMGROUP MP44 4 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($259.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: ASRock Phantom Gaming OC Radeon RX 7900 XTX 24 GB Video Card ($979.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Lian Li LANCOOL 216 ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 1000 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($139.90 @ Amazon)
Total: $2782.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-01-16 18:01 EST-0500

 

[punkncat]

I've never heard of Jungle before but I definitely will be heading to good to see what it is about

Lol. Amazon.