Told i have a CPU bottleneck but its not maxed out.

[Zytex_]

I don't know of i look stupid but i want to ask how i can fix this.
On all games i get 70 % usage on my cpu and 100 on the gpu.
No high temps both stay at around 55-60 c.
CPU: i3 4170
GPU: GTX 1050 Ti
RAM: 8GB (1x8) DDR3
Thanks for the answers already.

 

[Petarded]

GPU is weak, and you lack memory. If on a budget try 16gb of RAM, should improve things a fair bit.

 

[13thmonkey]

who told you?
You GPU is the bottleneck unless you are already getting the FPS that you want.

 

[RememberThe5th]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

 

[Jamie_69]

If your GPU is at 100% usage then it's not being bottlenecked - it's reaching its maximum.

 

[Zytex_]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

Most games.But currently Vermintide 2.I know its kinda CPU intensive i think because of the number of enemies.So is my gpu a bottleneck ? Because i do think the i3 4170 is worse or the same as the G4560.

 

[13thmonkey]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

It also depends on monitor frequency and vsync, with vsync off or a high frequency screen the gpu will have to work harder.

 

[Zytex_]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

It also depends on monitor frequency and vsync, with vsync off or a high frequency screen the gpu will have to work harder.

Normal 1080p 60 hz monitor. Vsync off.

 

[13thmonkey]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

It also depends on monitor frequency and vsync, with vsync off or a high frequency screen the gpu will have to work harder.

Normal 1080p 60 hz monitor. Vsync off.

Vsync off explains the gpu usage as it'll just run as fast as it possibly can.

 

[RememberThe5th]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

It also depends on monitor frequency and vsync, with vsync off or a high frequency screen the gpu will have to work harder.

Sorry i forgot little things sometimes...
I can say that G4560 is same as i3-4170.
8GB is decent for any game on medium or high Details, yet it doesnt let you to run too many background apps.

 

[Zytex_]

On which games? I have same setup as you but 2x4GB ram.
Depends from game to game, CSGO uses more CPU than GPU same as GTA 5 some games as War Thunder use more GPU than CPU, it all depends how game ulitilize it.

It also depends on monitor frequency and vsync, with vsync off or a high frequency screen the gpu will have to work harder.

Sorry i forgot little things sometimes...
I can say that G4560 is same as i3-4170.
8GB is decent for any game on medium or high Details, yet it doesnt let you to run too many background apps.

Legit dont have anything else other than steam open.No weird services/task manager processes.And i dont have gforce experience either since i heard its not that good.

 

[RememberThe5th]

Yet it depends in scenario how the game is ulitlizing CPU and GPU, like lets take for example some simlation game, it calcualtes what is where moving and that stuff and uses more CPU because GPU (or graphicly) isnt demanding game.
i3 is good CPU because it has good single core perfomance.

If your CPU is 100% and GPU 60% in game that uses both CPU and GPU , for example ASCO your CPU is bottleneck but it will still run 60FPS soo there is no problem in that, but if it ran 30-40 and if you swapped for better CPU it will gain more FPS (this is my way how i see bottleneck).

Third part that can cause low FPS is HDD fragmentation (and that includes missing textures), which is when you delete, copy and move stuff across HDD and its not optimized (as it has inner and outer circle , inner faster read outer slower as the head has to move).

In short it depends how you set up game (vsync and other things, like details and MSAA and FX) and how it ulitlizes the cores of the CPU and GPU.

Sorry if im wrong.

 

[King_V]

who told you?

That's something I'm curious on as well.

 

[13thmonkey]

who told you?

That's something I'm curious on as well.

Especially as given the data in the first post they are 100% wrong.

 

[Zytex_]

who told you?

That's something I'm curious on as well.

Especially as given the data in the first post they are 100% wrong.

A lot of people did.So i guess i should accept that my gpu is a bottleneck or i should get 8 more gb of ram to have 16 (2x8)?

 

[13thmonkey]

who told you?

That's something I'm curious on as well.

Especially as given the data in the first post they are 100% wrong.

A lot of people did.So i guess i should accept that my gpu is a bottleneck or i should get 8 more gb of ram to have 16 (2x8)?

There will always be a bottleneck, this is a simple fact. If you got a 1070 on that monitor then the monitor would be the bottleneck.

The question is are you getting the framerates you desire? You will hit problems with some games with that CPU, especially as you can't just turn down some graphical settings. But in the example at the start that is a GPU issue.

 

[Zytex_]

who told you?

That's something I'm curious on as well.

Especially as given the data in the first post they are 100% wrong.

A lot of people did.So i guess i should accept that my gpu is a bottleneck or i should get 8 more gb of ram to have 16 (2x8)?

There will always be a bottleneck, this is a simple fact. If you got a 1070 on that monitor then the monitor would be the bottleneck.

The question is are you getting the framerates you desire? You will hit problems with some games with that CPU, especially as you can't just turn down some graphical settings. But in the example at the start that is a GPU issue.

Well i reinstalled windows 10.Im going to download vermintide 2 again and check the usage on both just to see.Im gonna update.