Toldeo Dual vs. M2

[knownalien]

if you had your choice, would you buy a fast X2 toledo cpu or wait for the first generation of M2's?

I am at an impass right now and as you can see from my system, it is in need of a slight upgrade. If PCI-e didn't exist, I'd be doing just fine, but this "new" standard has made one like me have a difficult choice. Essentially, I would like to be able to surf the web or play a game WHILE recording a miniDV tape into my computer. I think a dual core would help me with that, but I am not sure. In any event, I don't even know if the M2 is going to be a dual core though i suspect it will be (thus the "2" in its name lol). I don't know how a better vid card will help getting video onto my system, but it sure would help in games.

The raptor is the system drive. The video is captured to another IDE drive. I have no pagefile since I have 2 gigs of ram (which reminds me that M2 will require DDR2, and I just got this RAM!) I use Studio 9 to get video onto my system. I do NOT wish to drop frames.

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Maxtor 40, 120
Western Digital Raptor 74 Gig
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
NEC LCD Monitor 1760NX
Antec Tru Power 550
Windows XP

 

[theholylancer]

i'd say wait until M2, unless you are like me who had a PIII 550MHZ as my primary working rig...... and ur rig could blow my PIII out of the water..... so i would say wait for M2 and don't just wait for it to come out, but wait for the prices to come down as well, ur rig in throey should last for a good many years... (even if its S754)

BTW the new PCIE standard is more a marketing scheme than anything, as that even only the most powerful cards out there are beginning to saterate (some dare to say that they are not even....) the bandwidth of AGP... and that they wanted PCIE for reasons 1) so people don't burn out any mobo or GPU with that stupid AGP variant problem... 2) so that people will think *hey its new i better get it* and that is all that there is...

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Enermax 485W PSU
Bios 6/23
Windows XP SP2

 

[pat]

The Asus K8N-e just add PCIe to socket 754. If you really need the PCIe right now, without going thru the whole update, just get this board and a video card. then, you should be able to wait for the newer socket, chipset and move your PCIe video card to that system if it is what you want. Or, you may end up getting a newer more performing videocard by then too. Selling your current motherboard/video card will help you to make up for the price of your new setup. then again, selling your current system will make up for your next upgrade. Remember that new socket will use new CPU and memory, so not all could be transfered to the new mobo. Better do a new start when there.

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[endyen]

It's going to cost you $700 to get a chip that will allow you to surf the net, and record your DVT as fast as you do know. Given that you will be able to play a game while recording, and not loose to many frames, in game, but there are just too many other things you could be doing while the box records.
If you really want to drop some cash, get the best gfx card agp has to offer, and play your games like never before.

 

[theholylancer]

well from what i'm seeing maybe a 10k raptor is nice? i mean i wouldn't want to get AGP GFX card nowdays since look at what happend with ULI, its a great chipset, but no implantation on the mobo sector. SPending 300+ on a GPU then finding out 1 year laer you can't even sell it because of lack of AGP slots (lots ppl going to PCIE even budget sys are goinf nowdays) is kinda bad to me

AMD A64 3200+Venice @2.65GHZ
DFI Lanparty UT NF4 Ultra-D
OCZ 2x512mb EL Gold VX PC3200 ram 2-2-2-8
evga eGeforce 6800GT 256mb GDDR3 ram
Enermax 485W PSU
Bios 6/23
Windows XP SP2

 

[Untruest]

Boy ur decision is tough. I was reading one of Tom's guide and the M2 hasn't gained a large number of popularity. And the main reason being if fear of sharing L2 cache as this would need to be allocated first by any individual cpu.

Just so u know, dual core would Definetly help you out at playing games and recording simulatneously. But more importantly u'd need a powerful video card if u expect the gpu to do both tasks at the same time. Unless u have a seperate encoder device to handle the recording and the video card doing the games. Sounds like pci-e would be more advantageous in that kind of setup since the recording device won't be restricted to 133mb/s and thus u can get better quality.

 

[Rugger]

M2 is not available right now...I guess you mean X2.

But more importantly u'd need a powerful video card if u expect the gpu to do both tasks at the same time.

GPU will not be significantly stressed by recording video onto the system. That will stress the CPU, HDD and use some RAM.

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