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The deck winner for the Poitiers Tournment (27/02/2005)
12 players.
With a new errata (DU, AR, KR), i think that a deck wall is come back
for a long time......Bad for the game......

The players'deck winner is François Morand with the "chicken eyes"

Deck Name : Chicken Eyes
Author : François MORAND

Crypt (12 vampires) Capacity min: 1 max: 4 average: 2.92
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1x Maldavis 4 AUS for pre Caitiff:3
1x Richard Tauber 4 AUS tha !Tremere:2
1x Idalia, Prophet of 4 AUS dem !Malkavian:2
1x Michael Luther 4 aus pre Toreador:3
1x Remilliard, Devout 4 AUS pre !Toreador:2
1x Isabel de Leon 3 AUS Toreador:2
1x Martin Franckel 3 AUS tha Tremere:3
1x Zoe 3 AUS cel obf Malkavian:2
1x Nicholas Chang 2 aus !Toreador:3
1x Piotr Andreikov 2 aus Tzimisce:3
1x Feo Ramos 1 aus Pander:3
1x Franciscus 1 aus Caitiff:2



Library (79 cards)
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Combat (10)
6x Concealed Weapon
4x Dragon's Breath Rounds

Equipment (9)
1x Bowl of Convergence
1x Ivory Bow
1x Palatial Estate
4x Saturday-Night Special
2x Sniper Rifle

Master (21)
5x Blood Doll
1x Carver's Meat Packing and Storage
2x Fame
2x Life Boon
2x Millicent Smith, Puritan Vampire Hunter
2x Pentex Subversion
1x Powerbase: Montreal
2x Rötschreck
2x Society of Leopold
2x Jake Washington

Reaction (39)
2x Delaying Tactics
5x Eagle's Sight
5x Enhanced Senses
7x Forced Awakening
5x My Enemy's Enemy
5x Precognition
5x Spirit's Touch
5x Telepathic Misdirection
 
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> The deck winner for the Poitiers Tournment (27/02/2005)
> 12 players.
> With a new errata (DU, AR, KR), i think that a deck wall is come back
> for a long time......Bad for the game......

oh right... but Anarch Revolt and Dramatic Upheaval weren't bad for the
game?
I'd rather play against a deck like this than Anson AR malarkey.
Wall decks are now becoming more of a feasible concept, not anywhere
NEAR dominating or broken, I think. Much too early to be complaining
about this sort of thing.

Interesting deck btw. Not often you see pure AUS win.
 
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> >Interesting deck btw. Not often you see pure AUS win.
>
> *cough* european championship *cough*
>
> can't remember which year, though.

Well I saw one year's winners, it was Tremere, auspex and thaumaturgy
(fast reaction and burst of sunlight, amongst other things).

There was another year I heard about that an intercept gun deck that
won, that could well have been pure AUS.
Yeah these sort of weenie intercept decks seem to go well at ECs, but I
think that's got quite a lot to do with metagame.
for example, any decent combat deck would have torn those weenies with
their saturday night specials and DBRs into shreds. But I saw listings
of the top 50 or so decks at an EC one year, and combat decks were very
few and far between. Weenie intercept with weapons seems a great deck
to beat weenie vote or weenie bleed, but not a whole lot else. At least
that's my take on it.
 
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On 2 Mar 2005 01:06:58 -0800, "Dasein" <dasein2600@hotmail.com>
scrawled:

>> The deck winner for the Poitiers Tournment (27/02/2005)
>> 12 players.
>> With a new errata (DU, AR, KR), i think that a deck wall is come back
>> for a long time......Bad for the game......
>
>oh right... but Anarch Revolt and Dramatic Upheaval weren't bad for the
>game?
>I'd rather play against a deck like this than Anson AR malarkey.
>Wall decks are now becoming more of a feasible concept, not anywhere
>NEAR dominating or broken, I think. Much too early to be complaining
>about this sort of thing.
>
>Interesting deck btw. Not often you see pure AUS win.

*cough* european championship *cough*

can't remember which year, though.

salem
http://www.users.tpg.com.au/adsltqna/VtES/index.htm
(replace "hotmail" with "yahoo" to email)
 
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Dasein wrote:
>>>Interesting deck btw. Not often you see pure AUS win.
>>
>>*cough* european championship *cough*
>>
>>can't remember which year, though.
>
>
> Well I saw one year's winners, it was Tremere, auspex and thaumaturgy
> (fast reaction and burst of sunlight, amongst other things).
>
> There was another year I heard about that an intercept gun deck that
> won, that could well have been pure AUS.
> Yeah these sort of weenie intercept decks seem to go well at ECs, but I
> think that's got quite a lot to do with metagame.
> for example, any decent combat deck would have torn those weenies with
> their saturday night specials and DBRs into shreds. But I saw listings
> of the top 50 or so decks at an EC one year, and combat decks were very
> few and far between. Weenie intercept with weapons seems a great deck
> to beat weenie vote or weenie bleed, but not a whole lot else. At least
> that's my take on it.
>

European Championships 2003
Barcelona, Spain
October 19, 2003
80 players

stefan ferenci's "little brother is watching you"

Crypt [avg=2.92]

franciscus
feo ramos
almiro suarez
milo
david morgan
zoe
martin franckel
isabell de Leon
Maldavis
richard tauber
remiliard
idalia


Library

master
5 blood doll
3 smiling jack to many!
3 society of leopold
2 milicent smith puritan vampire hunter
2 pentex subversion
2 auspex don´t need them, maybe one!
1 powerbase montreal
1 the rack
1 academic hunting ground
1 asylum hunting ground

minion
9 forced awakening
5 eagle sight
5 enhanced senses
5 spirits touch
5 precognition
5 my enemys enemy
5 telepathic misdirection

8 dodge
2 pulled fangs
1 disguised weapon

ivory bow
sengir dagger
palatial estate

muddled vampire hunter


faced 7 combat decks on the way to the finals (2 weenie pot/fatima
multirush/2 midcap cel gun/nossie princes/brujahprinces)
still got 2 gw
its a modern urban myth that combat easily beats weenie intercept.
try it learn to play it find out yourself
no guns btw

stefan
 
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"Stefan Ferenci" <nospam@thankyou.com> wrote in message
news:422642b5$0$12384$3b214f66@usenet.univie.ac.at...
> its a modern urban myth that combat easily beats weenie intercept.
> try it learn to play it find out yourself

It all depends on the type of combat deck. For small bleeders,
you require small thugs. If you have just a couple of combat
gods, you'll get overwhelmed before you can do must anything.
Intercept combat can stop weenies pretty effectively, but only
if it has more wakes and less intercept. (An Atonement can just
stop a weeny deck cold!)

Fred
 
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Stefan Ferenci wrote:
> its a modern urban myth that combat easily beats weenie intercept.
> try it learn to play it find out yourself

well, in a direct match-up it´s certainly true that a combat deck will
beat up the weenies. but on a 5 player table where the combat deck has
to fight against two players and is target of misdirected bleeds etc..
the situation maybe completely different.

the real problem of weenie aus are tables without aggressive bleed (and
probably vote) decks 🙂 no momentum to abuse for the own cause ...

--
johannes walch
 
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Frederick Scott wrote:
> "Stefan Ferenci" <nospam@thankyou.com> wrote in message
> news:422642b5$0$12384$3b214f66@usenet.univie.ac.at...
>
>>its a modern urban myth that combat easily beats weenie intercept.
>>try it learn to play it find out yourself
>
>
> It all depends on the type of combat deck. For small bleeders,
> you require small thugs. If you have just a couple of combat
> gods, you'll get overwhelmed before you can do must anything.
> Intercept combat can stop weenies pretty effectively, but only
> if it has more wakes and less intercept. (An Atonement can just
> stop a weeny deck cold!)
>
> Fred
>
>
read again i was talking about weenieintercept

stefan
 
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"Stefan Ferenci" <nospam@thankyou.com> wrote in
message news:4226566c$0$11094$3b214f66@usenet.univie.ac.at...
>>>its a modern urban myth that combat easily beats weenie intercept.
>>>try it learn to play it find out yourself
....
> read again i was talking about weenieintercept

Oh, that's cute. What are the pulled fangs for? Just use with
precog?

I still say it depends on the size of the combaters, though.

Fred
 
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Johannes Walch wrote:
> Stefan Ferenci wrote:
>
> the real problem of weenie aus are tables without aggressive bleed (and
> probably vote) decks 🙂 no momentum to abuse for the own cause ...
>
> --
> johannes walch


true to some extend, but a lot of minions grant you some offensive potential

stefan
 
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Frederick Scott wrote:
>(An Atonement can just stop a weeny deck cold!)

True. But the weenie AUS will just never let you pass the Atonement
action. Problem solved.

--
johannes walch
 
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Fran?ois Morand wrote:
> With a new errata (DU, AR, KR), i think that a deck wall is come back
> for a long time......Bad for the game......
Ahhh, my talking ... ;-)
> The players'deck winner is François Morand with the "chicken eyes"
Congratulations. See you in the final of the next qualifier 🙂)

--
johannes walch
 
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