[SOLVED] Trade offer for a GTX 1080 to a RTX 2080 Ti

[eternalabys]

Hey everyone,

I just got an offer for my EVGA ACX 3.0 SC GTX 1080 that I paid 230 Euro a while back, for a EVGA RTX 2080 Ti Black edition, now the lowest price for a 2080 Ti I've seen around me is 370 Euro for a Gigabyte Aorus Extreme. RTX 3070 costs a bit more and I can't find any local to me.

He's asking me what I'd be willing to pay extra for the trade, and am trying to find a fair price, as the Aorus card is certainly a much higher grade card. I'm personally evaluating the card at 320-330 Euro as I know when it originally came out it was one of the cheapest 2080 Ti models you could get, and cooling performance has to show for it. So I'd be paying around 100, maybe 120 or so over what I bought my current GPU for.

I don't know much about the card as I basically got the offer an hour ago, will ask if it's been mined on and for how long he's had it for, and if he'll even accept my evaluation of it.
Main reason I'm posting this thread is to ask if it's not too outlandish of an offer and if it was even worth it, as I was looking in to actually getting a higher end card, yet I forgot I had posted the trade listing a couple months ago lol, now when money is tight, I might buy it, might not.

 

[Lutfij]

Used card will most certainly be a card used for mining. I'd pass on the offer...save the funds, IMHO.

 

[eternalabys]

Used card will most certainly be a card used for mining. I'd pass on the offer...save the funds, IMHO.

Well, my current GTX 1080 was second hand and given the nature of the transaction that happened, it does seem like it was mined on. However, under full testing and checking for any kind of artifacting, it seems to be 100% fully functional.

Depending on how the card was maintained and used, it might be better off than most gaming PC builds lol.

I'm also just planning on putting up for a trade offer for a 30 series card afterwards or just selling it and buying something mid range and newer.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

I think its best to save your money because do not get why this person wants to downgrade to 1080 from 2080ti if the card has been mined dont think you will get the truth if you asked!

 

[LordVile]

Used card will most certainly be a card used for mining. I'd pass on the offer...save the funds, IMHO.

Doesn’t really matter if it was mined on. Cards used for mining are undervolted. Heat kills cards not use.

 

[Tac 25]

OP

this sounds too good to be true..

I fully expect the 2080 ti to be a dead or nearly dead mining card..

and the other guy will disappear like a ninja after you do the trade.

 

[XxDarkMario20xX]

Doesn’t really matter if it was mined on. Cards used for mining are undervolted. Heat kills cards not use.

Kinda dose matter to be honest because you do not know what the card been threw and has it been looked after because if the card been mined means the card been on 24 hours at a time to make money and kinda not healthy

 

[DSzymborski]

Doesn’t really matter if it was mined on. Cards used for mining are undervolted. Heat kills cards not use.

Competent miners undervolt their cards. As we saw from the last two crypto GPU booms, there are a lot of incompetent idiots mining with their GPUs who have zero idea what they're doing.

In any case, this is a very bad idea, OP. If you really want to upgrade and get a used card as an upgrade, then sell your GPU on eBay and buy your new GPU on eBay in separate transactions. Unless it's a friend (and a real friend, not an acquaintance) you never want to obtain a used GPU from a stranger in a way in which you have little recourse if the GPU's condition isn't what they say it is other than small claims court.

On the other hand, someone sells you a bum 2080 Ti on eBay or on another site that has consumer protections? Well, you can actually appeal and there's a good chance you'll get your money back.

 

[Phaaze88]

Doesn’t really matter if it was mined on. Cards used for mining are undervolted. Heat kills cards not use.

Adding to the other posts, mined cards stress the gpu's memory controller. On top of that, the memory is typically overclocked for max profits, adding to further wear. Memory voltage is fixed from vbios.
Games stress the VRM.
To say that use does not kill cards and only heat does, is... no.

 

[LordVile]

Adding to the other posts, mined cards stress the gpu's memory controller. On top of that, the memory is typically overclocked for max profits, adding to further wear. Memory voltage is fixed from vbios.
Games stress the VRM.
To say that use does not kill cards and only heat does, is... no.

That’s not how it works. Memory on cards is designed to run constantly at north of 100 degrees. It’s also not the same as an SSD which has a finite amount of writes, RAM can run non stop for years without having an issues. What do you think data centre cards do? Stop believing YouTubers.

 

[LordVile]

Kinda dose matter to be honest because you do not know what the card been threw and has it been looked after because if the card been mined means the card been on 24 hours at a time to make money and kinda not healthy

Again use doesn’t kill cards heat does. Mining pretty much only uses the memory which is designed to be used at 100% over 100 degrees for years on end. The average life expectancy of a ram module is over 10 years with a theoretical expiry of never. It’s not an SSD.

 

[Phaaze88]

That’s not how it works. Memory on cards is designed to run constantly at north of 100 degrees. It’s also not the same as an SSD which has a finite amount of writes, RAM can run non stop for years without having an issues. What do you think data centre cards do? Stop believing YouTubers.

These things all have a finite lifespan, and it shortens with use, whether the user was rough, gentle, or in between, but it will end.
Besides, my focus was on the memory CONTROLLER, the unspoken elephant that gpu mining does any real wear on. Overclocking memory is harder on the controller, power use and vram thermals be damned.
When the memory controller goes, that's it. Depending on the degree of damage, a repair specialist MIGHT be able to fix the VRM.

Please don't make assumptions about Youtube, as I didn't get the controller info from there. The popular vids cover +1000mhz memory OCs and cooling. The controller just gets forgotten, I guess because there's no software to read from that part or something.
I put together what I read from here and other tech sites. There's also the fact that cpus have integrated memory controllers too, where the number of occupied slots and the extremity of the XMP/DOCP profile are harder/easier on said controllers.

 

[LordVile]

These things all have a finite lifespan, and it shortens with use, whether the user was rough, gentle, or in between, but it will end.
Besides, my focus was on the memory CONTROLLER, the unspoken elephant that gpu mining does any real wear on. Overclocking memory is harder on the controller, power use and vram thermals be damned.
When the memory controller goes, that's it. Depending on the degree of damage, a repair specialist MIGHT be able to fix the VRM.

Please don't make assumptions about Youtube, as I didn't get the controller info from there. The popular vids cover +1000mhz memory OCs and cooling. The controller just gets forgotten, I guess because there's no software to read from that part or something.
I put together what I read from here and other tech sites. There's also the fact that cpus have integrated memory controllers too, where the number of occupied slots and the extremity of the XMP/DOCP profile are harder/easier on said controllers.

That’s not how electronics work. You also seem to be confusing CPUs and GPUs. Your argument also doesn’t make any sense with context. Either the miner knows what they’re doing or they don’t, pick a lane. Maybe get qualifications in the topic and then come back.

 

[eternalabys]

So, update to the situation,

He originally wanted to just step down his current GPU as he began gaming less and didn't require the performance of a 2080 Ti,

The moment we started discussing pricing, he immediately went above what I expected and said he wanted 250 at least, which would put the total to almost 500, I told him my opinion as there are other options at this time with better pricing and better overall quality, he said that someone else already offered him 450, told him goodluck on that exchange.

Worst case scenario, I sell my 1080 and buy in to another, better, 2080 Ti or 3070.

I'm still gonna be on the look out for anyone willing to trade on my end, hopefully I find some kind of deal lol.

Thank you all for your input! I've definitely been looking in to the mining aspect of it all, as it appears that at least all of the cards weren't used for mining, but you never know and just have to hope.