TranAtlantic in a Cessna 182?

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I'm a newbie and wanted to fly the stock 182 accross Canada. So mission
accomplished and I'm sitting in St John's and I think, "Well why not keep
going" But the range of the 182 is only 600ish nm and even Greenland is
further than that from Gander (or at least the Greenland strips I've looked
at).
Can you fly a 182 accross the Atlantic? Up Labrador and into Greenland?
Or is 600ish nm not going to get it done?
What is the range you need to go transatlantic?

Thanks
 
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Speyside:

> Can you fly a 182 accross the Atlantic? Up Labrador and into Greenland?
> Or is 600ish nm not going to get it done?
> What is the range you need to go transatlantic

Small aircraft, such as C712s, C182s and Cirrus SR-22s, are routinely
flown across the Atlantic and Pacific oceans as part of ferrying
missions. These missions typically involve someone across the ocean
purchasing a new aircraft and the factory flying the aircraft out to
these new owners.

Temporary modifications to the aircraft are made to accommodate the
trip, such as taking out the back seats (and shipping those by courier)
and installing a large, auxiliary fuel tank to extend the range of the
aircraft.

I have seen a few websites that have identified the modifications made
and the story of the flight, but I cannot find it at the moment,
despite a cursory search at Google.

> What is the range you need to go transatlantic?

I believe it is a bit more than the 600nm, probably more like 1000nm or
so, based on the need to add the auxiliary tanks. A Google search will
turn up better detail than I can provide.

--
Peter
 
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I wrote:

> Small aircraft, such as C712s

LOL, change that typo to "C172s."

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Peter
 
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"Beech45Whiskey" <pjricc@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Speyside:
>
>> Can you fly a 182 accross the Atlantic? Up Labrador and into Greenland?
>> Or is 600ish nm not going to get it done?
>> What is the range you need to go transatlantic
>
> Small aircraft, such as C712s, C182s and Cirrus SR-22s, are routinely
> flown across the Atlantic and Pacific oceans as part of ferrying
> missions. These missions typically involve someone across the ocean
> purchasing a new aircraft and the factory flying the aircraft out to
> these new owners.
>
> Temporary modifications to the aircraft are made to accommodate the
> trip, such as taking out the back seats (and shipping those by courier)
> and installing a large, auxiliary fuel tank to extend the range of the
> aircraft.
>
> I have seen a few websites that have identified the modifications made
> and the story of the flight, but I cannot find it at the moment,
> despite a cursory search at Google.
>
>> What is the range you need to go transatlantic?
>
> I believe it is a bit more than the 600nm, probably more like 1000nm or
> so, based on the need to add the auxiliary tanks. A Google search will
> turn up better detail than I can provide.
>
> --
> Peter
>

I remember reading magazine articles about these flights as well, but can't
find them now. But just to back up what you have already written, this is
how the planes are delivered, with extra weight removed, extra temporary
fuel tank, wind in the right direction, and not much margin for error.

(Coffee and in flight potty also required)
 
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"Keith Butcher" <keith.butcher@goesnowherewiththis.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
in message news:BLGte.53634$G8.27594@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> I remember reading magazine articles about these flights as well, but
can't
> find them now. But just to back up what you have already written, this is
> how the planes are delivered, with extra weight removed, extra temporary
> fuel tank, wind in the right direction, and not much margin for error.

I'm not disputing it, but that sounds crazy. It only costs a few $k to ship
a container over by ship. A light aircraft of that size with wing removed
would fit easily. Not to mention the not inconsiderable risk in flying a
single engined plane over hundreds of miles of open ocean at a time, hoping
the weather's going to be ok at the end of each leg.

Si
 
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While working at SFO, I talked to a pilot who was about to leave on a SFO -
MNL delivery of a Cessna 182. The back seat was all fuel. His first stop
was HNL. Then island hopping to the Philippines. He claimed that there are
only a hand full of pilots doing this type of flying. Wish I would have
asked him why they didn't just use a sea container and a slow ship to get
the job done.

HermanNelson
 
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Here's a guy flying a C150 across the Atlantic
<http://www.cessna150-152.com/transatlantic.htm>
-=tom=-



"Simon Robbins" <simon@NOSPAMsjrobbins.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>"Keith Butcher" <keith.butcher@goesnowherewiththis.blueyonder.co.uk> wrote
>in message news:BLGte.53634$G8.27594@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>> I remember reading magazine articles about these flights as well, but
>can't
>> find them now. But just to back up what you have already written, this is
>> how the planes are delivered, with extra weight removed, extra temporary
>> fuel tank, wind in the right direction, and not much margin for error.
>
>I'm not disputing it, but that sounds crazy. It only costs a few $k to ship
>a container over by ship. A light aircraft of that size with wing removed
>would fit easily. Not to mention the not inconsiderable risk in flying a
>single engined plane over hundreds of miles of open ocean at a time, hoping
>the weather's going to be ok at the end of each leg.
>
>Si
>
 
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"Speyside" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967B8C8A7D274999@24.67.253.211...
> I'm a newbie and wanted to fly the stock 182 accross Canada. So mission
> accomplished and I'm sitting in St John's and I think, "Well why not keep
> going" But the range of the 182 is only 600ish nm and even Greenland is
> further than that from Gander (or at least the Greenland strips I've
looked
> at).
> Can you fly a 182 accross the Atlantic? Up Labrador and into Greenland?
> Or is 600ish nm not going to get it done?
> What is the range you need to go transatlantic?

I thought about trying to recreate Lindburgh's flight in FS2004 online with
Vatsim for the Comic Relief charity a few months back. I really thought
it'd be a challenge just staying awake and without any auto pilot, but
everyone I spoke to (who don't fly sims) just thought I was mad!!

Si
 
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A Cirrus made just that journey, look at www.seething-airfield.co.uk

regards,

Paul.


"Speyside" <nospam@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns967B8C8A7D274999@24.67.253.211...
> I'm a newbie and wanted to fly the stock 182 accross Canada. So mission
> accomplished and I'm sitting in St John's and I think, "Well why not keep
> going" But the range of the 182 is only 600ish nm and even Greenland is
> further than that from Gander (or at least the Greenland strips I've
looked
> at).
> Can you fly a 182 accross the Atlantic? Up Labrador and into Greenland?
> Or is 600ish nm not going to get it done?
> What is the range you need to go transatlantic?
>
> Thanks
>
 
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"Tom Orle"
> Here's a guy flying a C150 across the Atlantic
> <http://www.cessna150-152.com/transatlantic.htm>

A strong potential candidate for the Darwin Awards.


Dallas
 
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"Dallas" <Cybnorm@spam_me_not.Hotmail.Com> wrote:

>
>"Tom Orle"
>> Here's a guy flying a C150 across the Atlantic
>> <http://www.cessna150-152.com/transatlantic.htm>
>
>A strong potential candidate for the Darwin Awards.

'Amen' to that! ;-))

-=t=-
 
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I loved the stories and felt very envious that I will never be able to do
that. What adventures those guys had, and what confidence in that little
plane?

Quilly
 
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It seems that bureaucracy seems to be a bigger obstacle to such
flights than the plane.
At least when crossing the Pacific ;-(

-=tom=-

"Quilljar" <wykehill-flightsim@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>
>
>I loved the stories and felt very envious that I will never be able to do
>that. What adventures those guys had, and what confidence in that little
>plane?
>
>Quilly
>