Tricks to jumpstart generic ink carts?

[Doc]

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I have an Epson Stylus CX-5200 and thought I'd try reloadable replacement
ink carts, since I've had great success with reloadables on an older Canon
Bubblejet. I got the carts, along with refill ink and a chip resetter from a
company called I-Matek off eBay. They worked great when I first loaded them.
Made several passes printing some pretty involved pics, to my eye they
looked just as good as the stock Epson ink.

However, about a week later, I tried to print something and get nothing.
Tried several head cleaning passes.

Any suggestions how to remedy this other than buying the much pricier Epson
carts?

Thanks!

 

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"Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have an Epson Stylus CX-5200 and thought I'd try reloadable replacement
> ink carts, since I've had great success with reloadables on an older Canon
> Bubblejet. I got the carts, along with refill ink and a chip resetter from
a
> company called I-Matek off eBay. They worked great when I first loaded
them.
> Made several passes printing some pretty involved pics, to my eye they
> looked just as good as the stock Epson ink.
>
> However, about a week later, I tried to print something and get nothing.
> Tried several head cleaning passes.
>
> Any suggestions how to remedy this other than buying the much pricier
Epson
> carts?
>
> Thanks

Clean heads on cart with cleaning solution then put cart in TWO plastic bags
one inside the other (heads down). Then twirl it round your head as fast as
possible to use centrifugal force to move ink towards the heads. Check every
now and then to see if any ink is coming out of the heads.

Works for me.

 

[Charlie]

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Doesn't it seem just a bit too much to save a few $$$ to twirl carts over
your head? BTW is this twirling ritual done at midnight under a full moon
while dancing naked around a fire?

Oh and one last thing...is it better to twirl the carts CW or CCW? LOL!!!

If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
lessons...LOL!!!

--

- Charlie
Looking for blues harp player in Mississippi for guitar/harp duo
acoustic-blues-duo@direcway.com

..



"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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>
> "Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XSwhc.17518$l75.10240@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > I have an Epson Stylus CX-5200 and thought I'd try reloadable
replacement
> > ink carts, since I've had great success with reloadables on an older
Canon
> > Bubblejet. I got the carts, along with refill ink and a chip resetter
from
> a
> > company called I-Matek off eBay. They worked great when I first loaded
> them.
> > Made several passes printing some pretty involved pics, to my eye they
> > looked just as good as the stock Epson ink.
> >
> > However, about a week later, I tried to print something and get nothing.
> > Tried several head cleaning passes.
> >
> > Any suggestions how to remedy this other than buying the much pricier
> Epson
> > carts?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Clean heads on cart with cleaning solution then put cart in TWO plastic
bags
> one inside the other (heads down). Then twirl it round your head as fast
as
> possible to use centrifugal force to move ink towards the heads. Check
every
> now and then to see if any ink is coming out of the heads.
>
> Works for me.
>
>

 

[Guest]

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In article <c66876$89nu8$1@ID-226528.news.uni-berlin.de>,
charlie@excite.com says...
>
> Oh and one last thing...is it better to twirl the carts CW or CCW? LOL!!!
>

Depends on whether you're right or left handed. ;-)

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General Dynamics C4 Systems
Scottsdale, AZ

 

[Doc]

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"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
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> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> lessons...LOL!!!

Actually, as it turns out, the problem was that I neglected to remove the
seals from the top (that are marked "remove"), which I assume cover over a
vent hole. Musta created a vacuum.

 

[Charlie]

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Good luck ....thx for the update..this also would have not happened with
factory carts...

Gee I bet you saved a bundle eh on a $30 factory cart???

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- Charlie
Looking for blues harp player in Mississippi for guitar/harp duo
acoustic-blues-duo@direcway.com

..



"Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:c66876$89nu8$1@ID-226528.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> > getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> > lessons...LOL!!!
>
> Actually, as it turns out, the problem was that I neglected to remove the
> seals from the top (that are marked "remove"), which I assume cover over a
> vent hole. Musta created a vacuum.
>
>

 

[Doc]

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"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Good luck ....thx for the update..this also would have not happened with
> factory carts...
>
> Gee I bet you saved a bundle eh on a $30 factory cart???


Color printer requires 4 carts. Epson carts for this particular printer are
approx $12 each. About $50 when you include tax to fill up a $120 printer
once.

For 4 replacement carts each of which has a full load of ink, plus 4 bottles
of refill ink & chip resetter I paid right at $70 including S&H, which sets
me up for probably 6 or 8 refills, probably at least a couple of years worth
of printing unless I start doing some heavy duty printing. Next time, if the
printer outlives the ink supply, all I have to buy is ink.

 

[Doc]

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"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
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> Refilling carts is never a good deal unless you ask someone that sells
them.

8 refills @ $50 = $400 (assuming the price doesn't go up)

-vs-

8 refills for $70
-------------------------
A savings of $330. On ONE set of refills. (The cost of almost 3 printers)

You have an odd sense of economics.

"LOL" if it makes you feel superior and all-knowing. I'll take the $330.

Later.

 

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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> schreef in bericht
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>
> "Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:XSwhc.17518$l75.10240@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > I have an Epson Stylus CX-5200 and thought I'd try reloadable
replacement
> > ink carts, since I've had great success with reloadables on an older
Canon
> > Bubblejet. I got the carts, along with refill ink and a chip resetter
from
> a
> > company called I-Matek off eBay. They worked great when I first loaded
> them.
> > Made several passes printing some pretty involved pics, to my eye they
> > looked just as good as the stock Epson ink.
> >
> > However, about a week later, I tried to print something and get nothing.
> > Tried several head cleaning passes.
> >
> > Any suggestions how to remedy this other than buying the much pricier
> Epson
> > carts?
> >
> > Thanks
>
> Clean heads on cart with cleaning solution then put cart in TWO plastic
bags
> one inside the other (heads down). Then twirl it round your head as fast
as
> possible to use centrifugal force to move ink towards the heads. Check
every
> now and then to see if any ink is coming out of the heads.


Yes, and after the twirling around don't forget to check your wallpaper 🙂)



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Are you by any chance a cartridge supplier?



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"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> schreef in bericht
news:c66876$89nu8$1@ID-226528.news.uni-berlin.de...
> Doesn't it seem just a bit too much to save a few $$$ to twirl carts over
> your head? BTW is this twirling ritual done at midnight under a full moon
> while dancing naked around a fire?
>
> Oh and one last thing...is it better to twirl the carts CW or CCW?
LOL!!!
>
> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> lessons...LOL!!!
>
> --
>
> - Charlie
> Looking for blues harp player in Mississippi for guitar/harp duo
> acoustic-blues-duo@direcway.com
>
> .
>
>
>
> "CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
> news:a7xhc.80941$Zq7.5397568@phobos.telenet-ops.be...
> >
> > "Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:XSwhc.17518$l75.10240@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > > I have an Epson Stylus CX-5200 and thought I'd try reloadable
> replacement
> > > ink carts, since I've had great success with reloadables on an older
> Canon
> > > Bubblejet. I got the carts, along with refill ink and a chip resetter
> from
> > a
> > > company called I-Matek off eBay. They worked great when I first loaded
> > them.
> > > Made several passes printing some pretty involved pics, to my eye they
> > > looked just as good as the stock Epson ink.
> > >
> > > However, about a week later, I tried to print something and get
nothing.
> > > Tried several head cleaning passes.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions how to remedy this other than buying the much pricier
> > Epson
> > > carts?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> >
> > Clean heads on cart with cleaning solution then put cart in TWO plastic
> bags
> > one inside the other (heads down). Then twirl it round your head as fast
> as
> > possible to use centrifugal force to move ink towards the heads. Check
> every
> > now and then to see if any ink is coming out of the heads.
> >
> > Works for me.
> >
> >
>
>

 

[bill]

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Linea Recta wrote:

>"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> schreef in bericht
>> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
>> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
>> lessons...LOL!!!
>
>Are you by any chance a cartridge supplier?

Took the words out of my mouth...

 

[Guest]

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From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give away the printers.

"Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message news:e7SdnRn1_o-AUhvdRVn-ig@golden.net...
> Linea Recta wrote:
>
> >"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> schreef in bericht
> >> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> >> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> >> lessons...LOL!!!
> >
> >Are you by any chance a cartridge supplier?
>
> Took the words out of my mouth...

 

[joann]

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"Vint@ge" <vint@ge.cars> wrote in message
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> From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give away
the printers.


Some printer manufacturers just about do. My daughter bought a cheapie for
her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of cartridges, one black and
one color. The replacement cartridges cost $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez,
for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a brand new printer every time she needs
ink!

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[uni]

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Charlie wrote:
> Doesn't it seem just a bit too much to save a few $$$ to twirl carts over
> your head? BTW is this twirling ritual done at midnight under a full moon
> while dancing naked around a fire?
>
> Oh and one last thing...is it better to twirl the carts CW or CCW? LOL!!!
>
> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> lessons...LOL!!!

Charlie, tell him if he didn't waste his money on Paint Shop Pro, he
would have $$$ to purchase decent cartridges!

🙂

Uni


>

 

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"Vint@ge" <vint@ge.cars> wrote in message
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> From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give away
the printers.
>

I got my HP 930c with a full price rebate.

> "Bill" <bill@c.a> wrote in message
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> > Linea Recta wrote:
> >
> > >"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> schreef in bericht
> > >> If this poor guy had just used factory carts he'd be printing now and
> > >> getting his print work done instead of posting and receiving dance
> > >> lessons...LOL!!!
> > >
> > >Are you by any chance a cartridge supplier?
> >
> > Took the words out of my mouth...
>
>

 

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 13:39:33 -0500, "Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote:

>The price
<whatever>

Please troll off

 

[Tim]

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JoAnn wrote:
> "Vint@ge" <vint@ge.cars> wrote in message
> news:niAhc.100$_o1.45021@read2.cgocable.net...
>
>> From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give
>> away the printers.
>
>
> Some printer manufacturers just about do. My daughter bought a
> cheapie for her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of
> cartridges, one black and one color. The replacement cartridges cost
> $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez, for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a
> brand new printer every time she needs ink!

Except the cartridges supplied with the new printer are usually contain
a fraction of the ink that a new cartridge does. It really is a sorry
little scam, but I don't know what can be done about it. I found
refilling cartridges a filthy waste. Buying another, much cheaper brand
is a real lottery, but if you can find one that works well for you is
probably the best solution.
In the last 5 or 10 years, owning a computer has moved from an expensive
hobby, to an almost essential part of life. Most of the hardware in that
time has improved in speed and usability by orders of magnitude, and at
the same time the price has drop to a tiny fraction of its cost just a
few years ago. This is a reflection of the economies of scale... it is
far more costly to produce each item that sells a few thousand than it
is to manufacture an item that sells millions.
There are however 2 areas of computers that don't reflect this trend...
printer ink and software. While many other items are sold at a price
that reflects the reduced cost of production, these are sold on the
basis of what the traffic will bear. And of these 2... even in a
marketplace where a minor cosmetic update of some office software can be
sold for hundreds of dollars, the single biggest case of corporate greed
in the entire pantheon of computing is printer ink. A teaspoon of dye in
a gimcrack little plastic box is worth no more than a few cents. Much of
the extra expense of manufacturing them is the cost of making them hard
to copy. Even then they should be $5 a dozen. The current prices are
just gouging and greed... and they are pretty much unavoidable.

Oh Well

Tim

 

[Charlie]

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The numbers are not the whole story....especially if all that "savings"
means a whole lot of trouble and hassle ...

How about if the damn refills even work or not eh???

What good is any savings if you can't print trouble-free -exactly the same-
as you can with factory carts?



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- Charlie
Looking for blues harp player in Mississippi for guitar/harp duo
acoustic-blues-duo@direcway.com

..



"Doc" <docsavage20@_remove_this_to_reply_hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:c66f6h$895pg$1@ID-226528.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > Refilling carts is never a good deal unless you ask someone that sells
> them.
>
> 8 refills @ $50 = $400 (assuming the price doesn't go up)
>
> -vs-
>
> 8 refills for $70
> -------------------------
> A savings of $330. On ONE set of refills. (The cost of almost 3 printers)
>
> You have an odd sense of economics.
>
> "LOL" if it makes you feel superior and all-knowing. I'll take the $330.
>
> Later.
>
>

 

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"Uni" <no.email@no.email.invalid> wrote in message
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> Yeah, so, why isn't every HP printer owner using your Brand-X
> cartridges??!!!

I'm using HP carts with third party ink.

 

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"Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
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> I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth
trouble
> free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.

I'm using HP carts and refilling them myself. I very rarely have a problem -
no more frequency than when I used new HP carts.

The only real problem is the risk of making a mess 🙂

 

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On my very old Cannon black BJ200e printer, I refilled the carts (BJ-06 I
think) dozen of times with success each time.

I refilled the black cart on my 895Cse many times with success too, but
always bought the color cart as these cartridges were fairly large and
lasted a long time for my useage.

Now, I have a HP 7660 Photosmart, and filled the black cart OK, and the
color cart I blocked a cyan nozzle some how, but it is very acceptable until
I get to buy another new one sometime.

This definitely is a savings in $$.

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"CWatters" <colin.watters@pandoraBOX.be> wrote in message
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>
> "Charlie" <charlie@excite.com> wrote in message
> news:c69j8v$9mqm6$1@ID-226528.news.uni-berlin.de...
>
> > I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth
> trouble
> > free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.
>
> I'm using HP carts and refilling them myself. I very rarely have a
problem -
> no more frequency than when I used new HP carts.
>
> The only real problem is the risk of making a mess 🙂
>
>

 

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"Marvin Margoshes" <physnospamchem@cloud9.net> wrote in message
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>
> When I used to refill my HP cartridges, I found that they were unreliable
> after about 4 cycles. The electrical contacts didn't work well anymore.

I find the HP carts last about two years before some thing goes wrong. The
Black I refill through the heads but the colour is refilled by needle and
syringe. Two of us share the printer which is used every day.

 

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 18:07:26 -0500, "Charlie" <charlie@excite.com>
wrote:

>Well that is what you say....most everyone that has tried refilling or
>generic carts from Staples or Walmart has regretted it.
>
>I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth trouble
>free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.

I have been using HP cartridges which I have refilled numerous times.
The inks I use are specific to the particular cartridge. I don't
expect generic inks to work when there are different inks available
for each cartridge type. I have recently bought a refurbished HP 5160
which has more memory and capability than my existing printer as it
uses the same ink to refill the cartridges as the old one

DT

 

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On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 12:22:37 GMT, "Tim"
<timmorr64@XremoveXhotmail.com> wrote:

>JoAnn wrote:
>> "Vint@ge" <vint@ge.cars> wrote in message
>> news:niAhc.100$_o1.45021@read2.cgocable.net...
>>
>>> From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give
>>> away the printers.
>>
>>
>> Some printer manufacturers just about do. My daughter bought a
>> cheapie for her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of
>> cartridges, one black and one color. The replacement cartridges cost
>> $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez, for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a
>> brand new printer every time she needs ink!
>
>Except the cartridges supplied with the new printer are usually contain
>a fraction of the ink that a new cartridge does. It really is a sorry
>little scam, but I don't know what can be done about it. I found
>refilling cartridges a filthy waste. Buying another, much cheaper brand
>is a real lottery, but if you can find one that works well for you is
>probably the best solution.
>In the last 5 or 10 years, owning a computer has moved from an expensive
>hobby, to an almost essential part of life. Most of the hardware in that
>time has improved in speed and usability by orders of magnitude, and at
>the same time the price has drop to a tiny fraction of its cost just a
>few years ago. This is a reflection of the economies of scale... it is
>far more costly to produce each item that sells a few thousand than it
>is to manufacture an item that sells millions.
>There are however 2 areas of computers that don't reflect this trend...
>printer ink and software. While many other items are sold at a price
>that reflects the reduced cost of production, these are sold on the
>basis of what the traffic will bear.

There are more items that follow the same policy: Shaving blades and
vacuum cleaner bags.

Where you can not avoid buying original brand supplies you will
shortly find the suppliers hand direcly in your purse.

Michael

 

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:29:09 -0400, "JoAnn" <jo@nospam.com> wrote:

>
>"Vint@ge" <vint@ge.cars> wrote in message
>news:niAhc.100$_o1.45021@read2.cgocable.net...
>
>> From what they charge for the cartridges, they could afford to give away
>the printers.
>
>
>Some printer manufacturers just about do. My daughter bought a cheapie for
>her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of cartridges, one black and
>one color. The replacement cartridges cost $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez,
>for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a brand new printer every time she needs
>ink!

Do it - and sell the empty printers on ebay, some fool will buy them.

Michael