Trident Z vs Flare-X RAM for Ryzen

[Toxikaraidur]

Looking at specs on ram is rather simple once you know the dirty little tricks and can punch simple numbers into a calculator for performance vs price. Trident Z as always blows the socks off of most other memory modules and looks dang good doing it too.

I also understand that Flare-X is quite new, as is Ryzen, but is there any real difference in performance or stability between the two models if I were to plug either or into a Ryzen board and cpu? To give some actual specs here are some:

cheap ssd for boot basic hdd for storage boom done
ryzen 1600x because I'm lazy with overclocking
crosshair hero because why the heck not
and here's where things get dicey and interesting

Trident Z 32GB 2x16 2800mhz CL 14 269.99

Flare-X 32GB 2x16 2400mhz CL15 215.99

I know that the flare would technically be the better *value* especially if you sod the xmp and work with the timings and voltages manually. Which I pretty much intended to do from the start with the Trident anyway, but tell me honestly; Is there any REAL performance loss to the models mentioned above? Speed and Latency do matter; particularly with CAD and related content creation with music and video rendering (Which is part of the reason for this rig).

 

[RektSkrubz]

the trident z rgb is nice when it works.

 

[Toxikaraidur]

the trident z rgb is nice when it works.

A: I don't care about RGB much less how "purty" it looks on a Ramstick.
B: You completely did not answer any part of the question
C: I did not say I was getting the RGB ramsticks. Just the Trident Z series.

 

[Supahos]

Honestly I'd go for the 3200 tridents. The price premium isn't that much more and virtually guarantees Samsung bdie chips which play very well with ryzen. Fast memory is a must for ryzen.



https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/62vp2g/clearing_up_any_samsung_bdie_confusion_eg_on/

If you want to deep dive and price shop

 

[jossrik]

Hey Boss,
I've got a 3200 32Gb setup, and right now they're not great compatibility wise with the ryzens. Maybe really soon though, they're getting better and better almost every day. As we are, the 2X16Gb kits (anything, mine are Samsung B Die, which are supposed to be the most compatible) aren't running at full rate depending on what you get. If you get the 2400 kit, it will most likely run at rated, but don't expect much more out of it for a bit. The 2800 will most likely run at 2400 right now but with tighter timings. I have the 3200C15D-32 and it's running at 2667C14, though, I can probably drop the timings. Right now, Ryzen likes even numbered CLs, so 12, 14, 16 etc. @2400 I can run CL12, 11 won't boot. 2x8Gb kits are running up to and beyond 3200 pretty reliably if they're on the QVL or have chips similar to those on the QVL.

 

[Supahos]

The microcode update should be incoming soon and help with that.

 

[Deleted member 217926]

The TridentZs based on the Samsung B-die ICs should run at DDR4 3000 and up speeds. Those would be the high speed/low cas 3200/14, 3600/16 etc.

The problem with the existing TridentZ is that it uses Intel's XMP profiles. Ryzen uses it's own profiles and the subtimings can be very different. Flare is specific for Ryzen and has AMD subtimings hardcoded. Maybe XMP profiles too, I don't know for sure.

Edit: I didn't even notice you were asking about lower speed DDR4. At those speeds you can really get something cheaper. I'd aim for 3200/14 with Ryzen myself. It depends on fast RAM.