Trouble with K8M Neo-V mobo & Radeon 9800 XT video card

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I recently had my PC upgraded. I have now an MSI K8M Neo-V motherboard with
an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 1,5 Gb of memory. My soundcard is a SB
Audigy LS.
My videocard is a Creative (ATI) Radeon 9800 XT.

Which brings me to my problem. Ever since I have the new mobo & CPU, I've
been having problems playing games.

While in Windows everything seems to work just fine (audio, video, whatever)
whenever I try to play a game, sooner or later the system locks up: the
image freezes, after a while the sound hangs as well, and finally the screen
goes black, and the monitor seems to go in standby mode.

I have no idea what could be causing this. My first thought was, of course,
a problem with the videocard (which up until then had worked fine). I
removed the Radeon and tried my old card, a GeForce 4 Ti 4200. I reinstalled
Windows just to be sure there were no leftovers from the other card's
drivers, and tried the same game again. Sure enough, it worked fine, no
crashes whatsoever.

So I had the Radeon card replaced by Creative; they sent me a new one, which
I tried out, but the crashes remained. Again, no problem in Windows, but as
soon as I tried to play, bingo!

(The particular game in question, BTW, is "Lord of The Rings: The Battle for
Middle Earth". I mention this because some people have reported similar
system lock-ups with that particular game on their PC's. The game is pretty
demanding on the hardware, apparently. To be honest I haven't tried any
other games recently.)

However, it used to work just fine (albeit a tad too slow) before I got the
new mobo & cpu, with that Radeon 9800 XT card. So why doesn't it work
anymore? What has changed?

So I was wondering if anyone here has had similar experiences, or any ideas
what could be wrong. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
 
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:20:30 +0100, "Lukas Mariman"
<lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote:

>I recently had my PC upgraded. I have now an MSI K8M Neo-V motherboard with
>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 1,5 Gb of memory. My soundcard is a SB
>Audigy LS.
>My videocard is a Creative (ATI) Radeon 9800 XT.
>
>Which brings me to my problem. Ever since I have the new mobo & CPU, I've
>been having problems playing games.
>
>While in Windows everything seems to work just fine (audio, video, whatever)
>whenever I try to play a game, sooner or later the system locks up: the
>image freezes, after a while the sound hangs as well, and finally the screen
>goes black, and the monitor seems to go in standby mode.
>
>I have no idea what could be causing this. My first thought was, of course,
>a problem with the videocard (which up until then had worked fine). I
>removed the Radeon and tried my old card, a GeForce 4 Ti 4200. I reinstalled
>Windows just to be sure there were no leftovers from the other card's
>drivers, and tried the same game again. Sure enough, it worked fine, no
>crashes whatsoever.
>
>So I had the Radeon card replaced by Creative; they sent me a new one, which
>I tried out, but the crashes remained. Again, no problem in Windows, but as
>soon as I tried to play, bingo!
>
>(The particular game in question, BTW, is "Lord of The Rings: The Battle for
>Middle Earth". I mention this because some people have reported similar
>system lock-ups with that particular game on their PC's. The game is pretty
>demanding on the hardware, apparently. To be honest I haven't tried any
>other games recently.)
>
>However, it used to work just fine (albeit a tad too slow) before I got the
>new mobo & cpu, with that Radeon 9800 XT card. So why doesn't it work
>anymore? What has changed?
>
>So I was wondering if anyone here has had similar experiences, or any ideas
>what could be wrong. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
>
Is the RAM new? I have had a new computer crash while playing WOW and
it turned out to be a memory problem. I had 1 GB Mushkin Level One (
2 x 512 )PC 3200, the system would crash when playing. Using one of
the 512's worked fine, no crashes. Maybe you could try one stick ( I
guess you have 3 x 512) and see if it helps.

Gollum
 
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On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:29 GMT, Gollum <Gollum@pretty.net> wrote:

>On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 12:20:30 +0100, "Lukas Mariman"
><lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote:
>
>>I recently had my PC upgraded. I have now an MSI K8M Neo-V motherboard with
>>an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 1,5 Gb of memory. My soundcard is a SB
>>Audigy LS.
>>My videocard is a Creative (ATI) Radeon 9800 XT.
>>
>>Which brings me to my problem. Ever since I have the new mobo & CPU, I've
>>been having problems playing games.
>>
>>While in Windows everything seems to work just fine (audio, video, whatever)
>>whenever I try to play a game, sooner or later the system locks up: the
>>image freezes, after a while the sound hangs as well, and finally the screen
>>goes black, and the monitor seems to go in standby mode.
>>
>>I have no idea what could be causing this. My first thought was, of course,
>>a problem with the videocard (which up until then had worked fine). I
>>removed the Radeon and tried my old card, a GeForce 4 Ti 4200. I reinstalled
>>Windows just to be sure there were no leftovers from the other card's
>>drivers, and tried the same game again. Sure enough, it worked fine, no
>>crashes whatsoever.
>>
>>So I had the Radeon card replaced by Creative; they sent me a new one, which
>>I tried out, but the crashes remained. Again, no problem in Windows, but as
>>soon as I tried to play, bingo!
>>
>>(The particular game in question, BTW, is "Lord of The Rings: The Battle for
>>Middle Earth". I mention this because some people have reported similar
>>system lock-ups with that particular game on their PC's. The game is pretty
>>demanding on the hardware, apparently. To be honest I haven't tried any
>>other games recently.)
>>
>>However, it used to work just fine (albeit a tad too slow) before I got the
>>new mobo & cpu, with that Radeon 9800 XT card. So why doesn't it work
>>anymore? What has changed?
>>
>>So I was wondering if anyone here has had similar experiences, or any ideas
>>what could be wrong. Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
>>
>Is the RAM new? I have had a new computer crash while playing WOW and
>it turned out to be a memory problem. I had 1 GB Mushkin Level One (
>2 x 512 )PC 3200, the system would crash when playing. Using one of
>the 512's worked fine, no crashes. Maybe you could try one stick ( I
>guess you have 3 x 512) and see if it helps.
>
>Gollum
I had similar troubles with a 9800pro on an MSI k8t master 2-far with
dual opterons. No matter what i did with this combo, i had lockups,
and no it wasn't memory in my case or power related. What i ended up
doing was replacing the card with a xfx 6600gt. I haven't had one
freeze yet. The 9800 went back in the old system with the P4 and once
again that system is stable.
 
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"NoneOfBusiness" <NoneOfBusiness@nob.net> schreef in bericht
news:0b8011p0vh14cdnkeolndngel8j8u1gmcr@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:29 GMT, Gollum <Gollum@pretty.net> wrote:
>>>
>>Is the RAM new? I have had a new computer crash while playing WOW and
>>it turned out to be a memory problem. I had 1 GB Mushkin Level One (
>>2 x 512 )PC 3200, the system would crash when playing. Using one of
>>the 512's worked fine, no crashes. Maybe you could try one stick ( I
>>guess you have 3 x 512) and see if it helps.

Thanks for the suggestion! I considered that. The thing is, however, my old
GeForce 4 card works just fine in this system.

>>Gollum
> I had similar troubles with a 9800pro on an MSI k8t master 2-far with
> dual opterons. No matter what i did with this combo, i had lockups,
> and no it wasn't memory in my case or power related.

I think I can relate to that now. :-/

> What i ended up
> doing was replacing the card with a xfx 6600gt. I haven't had one
> freeze yet. The 9800 went back in the old system with the P4 and once
> again that system is stable.

The guy from the store where I had the PC upgraded said pretty much the same
thing - just get another card. Great. :-(
 
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On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 18:51:51 +0100, "Lukas Mariman"
<lukas.mariman@skynet.be> wrote:

>
>"NoneOfBusiness" <NoneOfBusiness@nob.net> schreef in bericht
>news:0b8011p0vh14cdnkeolndngel8j8u1gmcr@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 13 Feb 2005 23:51:29 GMT, Gollum <Gollum@pretty.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>Is the RAM new? I have had a new computer crash while playing WOW and
>>>it turned out to be a memory problem. I had 1 GB Mushkin Level One (
>>>2 x 512 )PC 3200, the system would crash when playing. Using one of
>>>the 512's worked fine, no crashes. Maybe you could try one stick ( I
>>>guess you have 3 x 512) and see if it helps.
>
>Thanks for the suggestion! I considered that. The thing is, however, my old
>GeForce 4 card works just fine in this system.
>
>>>Gollum
>> I had similar troubles with a 9800pro on an MSI k8t master 2-far with
>> dual opterons. No matter what i did with this combo, i had lockups,
>> and no it wasn't memory in my case or power related.
>
>I think I can relate to that now. :-/
>
>> What i ended up
>> doing was replacing the card with a xfx 6600gt. I haven't had one
>> freeze yet. The 9800 went back in the old system with the P4 and once
>> again that system is stable.
>
>The guy from the store where I had the PC upgraded said pretty much the same
>thing - just get another card. Great. :-(
>

Don't give up hope just yet. Go ahead and use memtest and check your
memory. Try the latest, or older ATI Catalyst drivers. You could also
turn off fast writes, switch it to agp 4x, etc. I have seen 9800 cards
that just plain overheated during gameplay and caused a crash (My
brothers sapphire 9800pro did this).

You could always sell the card on ebay, and get you something else..
 
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Lukas Mariman schrieb:
> I recently had my PC upgraded. I have now an MSI K8M Neo-V motherboard with
> an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 1,5 Gb of memory. My soundcard is a SB
> Audigy LS.
> My videocard is a Creative (ATI) Radeon 9800 XT.
>
> Which brings me to my problem. Ever since I have the new mobo & CPU, I've
> been having problems playing games.
>
> While in Windows everything seems to work just fine (audio, video, whatever)
> whenever I try to play a game, sooner or later the system locks up: the
> image freezes, after a while the sound hangs as well, and finally the screen
> goes black, and the monitor seems to go in standby mode.

This ready exactly like the problems I had with my MSI K8N Platinum and
Radeon 9600 Pro card. I could fix it by adjusting the BIOS AGP setting
to 4x mode.

Hope that helps.

---
Hannes
 
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"Hannes Brunner" <bruhan12@web.de> schreef in bericht
news:42236D26.3050202@web.de...
> Lukas Mariman schrieb:
>> I recently had my PC upgraded. I have now an MSI K8M Neo-V motherboard
>> with an AMD Athlon 64 3000+ processor and 1,5 Gb of memory. My soundcard
>> is a SB Audigy LS.
>> My videocard is a Creative (ATI) Radeon 9800 XT.
>>
>> Which brings me to my problem. Ever since I have the new mobo & CPU, I've
>> been having problems playing games.
>>
>> While in Windows everything seems to work just fine (audio, video,
>> whatever) whenever I try to play a game, sooner or later the system locks
>> up: the image freezes, after a while the sound hangs as well, and finally
>> the screen goes black, and the monitor seems to go in standby mode.
>
> This ready exactly like the problems I had with my MSI K8N Platinum and
> Radeon 9600 Pro card. I could fix it by adjusting the BIOS AGP setting to
> 4x mode.
>
> Hope that helps.

Thanks for the suggestion! I tried that, but found that for some reason I
could not change the setting in the BIOS, like it was hardwired. I *could*
change the setting in Windows, through the ATI Catalyst control panel, but
that setting didn't seem to "stick".
 
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