Troubles Overclocking with motherboard

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Hi. So I recently updated my graphics card and decided to give my BIOS a good look around to make sure everything was set to what it needed to be to get the optimal gaming experience. I'm not sure what my processor clock speed was but I knew it was good, however, I knew this before, but I decided to take a swing at my ram. My ram, which I dealt with this issue before, will not run at the right speed. I believe it was running at around 2400 mhz, but I decided to make it run at the 2800 mhz or a higher speed if I could. Well, I changed the settings, tried to restart, and it boot cycled. I then upped the voltage on the ram a little more (to 1.3 I think) and the pc started without boot cycling or shutting down (leds and fans turn off). I played my games and everything worked fine and dandy. However the next day, I went to start it from a cold boot and it boot cycled 2 times and then got stuck in a boot cycle. I tried restarting the pc, unplugging and holding power to train the power out, nothing worked. So I reset the CMOS battery and it obviously reset all my motherboard settings. I tried putting back in my settings I had before and nothing seems to work. I can run my ryzen r5 1600x at 3.8 ghz but it locks my ram speed at 2166 even if I up the voltage, which if I do that it boot cycles. So, the moral of the story is how can I run my processor at 3.8 ghz or 3.9 if I can and have my ram speed at 2800 mhz (the rated speed) or higher because it's overclockable ram?

Here are my specs:
Motherboard: Asrock X370 Killer Sli a/c
Processor: Ryzen 5 1600x
CPU Cooler - Hyper 212 evo
Ram: CORSAIR Vengeance LPX 8GB (2 x 4GB) 2800 mhz (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233882)
Graphics Card: GTX 1080 MSI Gaming X
PSU: EVGA 500W 80Plus (https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817438016)


Also, after typing my part list, I forgot that my PSU is a 500w just 80+. Would that have an effect on it since now I have a GTX 1080 (which is power hungry) and the PSU is not bronze, gold, etc certified?

I am also attaching images of my current BIOS settings:
My Bios Settings
 
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The 80+ effiency rating is irrelevant as to whether the PSU is suitable for overclocking or not. 80plus is also irrelevant as to whether a unit is any good, other than if you already KNOW the unit is a quality platform AND is some kind of 80plus, bronze, silver, gold, etc., then that of course is a bonus, or these days practically a given on a good unit. Doesn't mean every 80plus bronze, silver or gold unit IS good though. There are some with high efficiency ratings that I wouldn't use to power an LED light.

What is the EXACT model number of your PSU?

Have you updated the BIOS to the latest version, because THAT is the biggest factor on ALL Ryzen motherboards as far as what memory modules and at what SPEEDS they are likely to be able to run at. Early BIOS releases had poor support across the board. Newer releases are much better. If you have not updated the BIOS you need to do that before anything else.
 
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The model number is 100-W1-0500-KR

My bios version is 3.4 but there is an update for 3.5 but it doesn’t say its for memory fixes but I can still install it.
 
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Nice. Glad it worked out. Figured that was the issue. In the future, anytime you get a board, or even for this board, check the manufacturers page to see if there are BIOS updates that address your issue OR Google your board model and "bios updates" to see if there are relevant mentions of your specific problem being fixed THROUGH a BIOS update, because usually there are.

These days they push these boards out rather fast without a lot of compatibility testing like they used to do, figuring they can address issues as they come along but often they are already "along" from the start. Wish they'd do better beta testing on them before release but it is what it is.

Also, given the otherwise high quality nature of your build, especially with your motherboard and graphics card, I would HIGHLY recommend that you start thinking NOW about getting a new power supply SOON. That unit isn't a fire starter or anything like that, but it IS just about one of the lowest quality units sold by EVGA. All of their W1, N1, B1, B3, BQ and NEX Supernova units are not great. Only the EVGA B2, G2, G2L, G3, GQ, P2 and T2 units are of the kind of quality you'd want to see paired with any expensive hardware, especially a high end graphics card.

The lower end units have excessive ripple and noise which will prematurely kill the capacitors on connected hardware at some point, and they just are unlikely to last long on top of under high demand load situations like what you'll see with a top shelf graphics card or overclocked machine.

For the sake of your hardware and to avoid future frustration, do yourself a favor and get a much better unit as soon as you are able.
 
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So, after updating the BIOS last night, I was able to reach a 3.9 ghz cpu overclock and get my ram to 3066 mhz with cinebench and prime95 running together and no freezing or overheating. However today, starting it from a cold boot seems to start the boot cycling again. It starts and stops 2 times and then starts a third time and seems to get more and then less and then more power and then back to less (as it seems from the led's getting brighter as with the fan speed and then slowing). I'm assuming this means there is not enough voltage? I have it set to 3.9 ghz with a 1.4 v for processor and 3066 mhz and 1.2 v for memory. Should I see if it is the ram by setting only the cpu to overclock and then wait long enough for it to start from cold boot?
 
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Thanks for that! So, now the computer can due a 3900mhz cpu clock and 2800 mhz ram clock. However, now the pc, when booting from cold boot, only shuts down once and restarts but actually keeps the speeds and clocks correct instead of resetting them? Does this mean I should go just a tad up in my ram voltage? I ran Prime95 and Cinebench simultaneously for 30 minutes and ran into no freezing or extreme temperatures.
 
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There is probably, almost certainly, a setting for that in the bios. I'm just not remembering what it is. I don't want you to think I forgot but I'll look at that as soon as I'm able and let you know if something jumps out at me. You might also want to see if you can find a board specific tutorial on overclocking that model or look through the user manual to see if you can find a setting that's relevant. Could be DRAM training voltage, could be something else.

If I find it I'll let you know but for now I wouldn't be TOO worried about it so long as it is working correctly. You can TRY bumping the voltage another .05v (So, 1.3v total) but I wouldn't go beyond that AND if it seems to mess with the stability or thermals too much, I'd put it right back.
 
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Also, make sure you're not using HWmonitor or Open hardware monitor to keep on eye on thermals or sensors.


First of all, uninstall Open Hardware monitor. Don't ever use that OR HWmonitor. They are both grossly inaccurate on certain chipsets or with some specific sensors. Overall, they are junk programs mostly. Use HWinfo or CoreTemp.

CoreTemp is great for just CPU thermals. HWinfo is great for pretty much EVERYTHING else, including CPU thermals, core loads, core temps, package temps, GPU sensors, HDD and SSD sensors, motherboard chipset and VRM sensor, all of it. Always select the "Sensors only" option when running HWinfo.

In order to help you, it's often necessary to SEE what's going on, in the event one of us can pick something out that seems out of place, or other indicators that just can't be communicated via a text only post. In these cases, posting an image of the HWinfo sensors or something else can be extremely helpful. Here's how:

*How to post images in Tom's hardware forums



Run HWinfo and look at system voltages and other sensor readings.

Monitoring temperatures, core speeds, voltages, clock ratios and other reported sensor data can often help to pick out an issue right off the bat. HWinfo is a good way to get that data and in my experience tends to be more accurate than some of the other utilities available. CPU-Z, GPU-Z and Core Temp all have their uses but HWinfo tends to have it all laid out in a more convenient fashion so you can usually see what one sensor is reporting while looking at another instead of having to flip through various tabs that have specific groupings.

After installation, run the utility and when asked, choose "sensors only". The other window options have some use but in most cases everything you need will be located in the sensors window. If you're taking screenshots to post for troubleshooting, it will most likely require taking three screenshots and scrolling down the sensors window between screenshots in order to capture them all.

*Download HWinfo


For temperature monitoring only, I feel Core Temp is the most accurate and also offers a quick visual reference for core speed, load and CPU voltage:

*Download Core Temp

When it comes to temperature issues, taking care of the basics first might save everybody involved a lot of time and frustration. Check the CPU fan heatsink for dust accumulation and blow or clean out as necessary. Avoid using a vacuum if possible as vacuums are known to create static electricity that can, in some cases, zap small components. Other areas that may benefit from a cleaning include fans, power supply internals, storage and optical drives, the motherboard surfaces and RAM. Keeping the inside of your rig clean is a high priority and should be done on a regular basis.
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That the end of my normal rant on the monitoring utilities.
 
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Ok, I will also check that. I am making adjustments in the BIOS.
 
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