[SOLVED] Trying to get some ideas for a good quality AMD motherboard.

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First off, thank you for taking the time to check out my post

I'm planning on building a new fairly high end gaming PC to replace my extremely dated gaming PC.

A very kind and generous moderator provided me with two builds which look awesome. The MOBO they suggested is the "GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X". It looks really good but a decent number of reviews on Newegg.ca say it's dead on arrival or killed their CPU (if that even makes sense).
Is this a good Mobo? I'd be willing to spend a bit more to get a good one, both reliable and good performing.

I'd like you opinions. Is this Gigabyte one good or is there perhaps a better one for a bit more?

Thank you.
 

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How do you tell what a good VRM design is?
Look at this AM4 Motherboard VRM chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Generally speaking, and sorry for the late reply, everything costs more here and are incomes tend to be a higher to compensate I guess.
I actually live near the Canadian Border (Do the Peace Bridge or Rainbow Bridge ring any Bells LOL), so I know everything costs more in Canada.
I was just surprised that the price difference between those 2 motherboards was a lot bigger than it is here.

PS
I have been to your fair city on numerous occasions and have spent some time roaming Yonge Street sampling your excellent local beverages when I was younger.
I visited the Hockey Hall of Fame, did the Edge Walk on the CN Tower and even saw a few concerts and hockey games at the Coliseum. :D
 
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The most times the reviews are bad. Most people that are happy with their purchase wont go and write a review. I personally own a Gigabyte AX370 and the most reviews was about being faulty from the start or in a year time when i bought the motherboard. So far i have it for 1 year and 6 months and i dont have any problem at all. If you still want to make a step more and willing to spend a bit more then look for Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite its overall a better motherboard.
 

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I personally like the Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming, if I was looking for an X570 motherboard this one would definitely be in the running:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-atx-motherboard,6246.html

It's a bit pricey in Canada though:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CLkgXL/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming

The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite looks like a decent budget board (relatively speaking):
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-motherboard,6252.html
 
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I personally like the Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming, if I was looking for an X570 motherboard this one would definitely be in the running:
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-atx-motherboard,6246.html

It's a bit pricey in Canada though:
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/CLkgXL/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming-atx-am4-motherboard-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming

The Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite looks like a decent budget board (relatively speaking):
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gigabyte-x570-aorus-elite-atx-motherboard,6252.html
Thanks! I dont want to skimp on a core component like MOBO, might just get the pricey one and bite the bullet.

I dont even know much about MOBOs. What makes a good one? Why is the one you suggested double the price of the Gigabyte one?
 
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The most times the reviews are bad. Most people that are happy with their purchase wont go and write a review. I personally own a Gigabyte AX370 and the most reviews was about being faulty from the start or in a year time when i bought the motherboard. So far i have it for 1 year and 6 months and i dont have any problem at all. If you still want to make a step more and willing to spend a bit more then look for Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite its overall a better motherboard.
That's an excellent point... I'll look into that one, thanks!
 

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Thanks! I dont want to skimp on a core component like MOBO, might just get the pricey one and bite the bullet.

I dont even know much about MOBOs. What makes a good one? Why is the one you suggested double the price of the Gigabyte one?
I agree, skimping on the MB on a high end build is definitely a mistake.
As far as the price goes the difference in the US is only about $100, so I have no idea why it costs so much more in Canada.
ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming/p/N82E16813119111

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145160?Description=Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite&cm_re=Gigabyte_X570_Aorus_Elite-_-13-145-160-_-Product

But if you read the reviews I linked in my last post, they explain what is different/better about the Asus vs that Gigabyte board.
The Asus board is basically just an all around better quality board according to those reviews.
 

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Make sure that the board you buy has a decent VRM design. AMD's 3000 CPUs need a lot of power and cheaper board designs (e.g. MSi's mid and low priced boards) run a LOT hotter, as much as 40 degrees C more than other brands under load, which is not good for the components lifespan.
 
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First off, thank you for taking the time to check out my post

I'm planning on building a new fairly high end gaming PC to replace my extremely dated gaming PC.

A very kind and generous moderator provided me with two builds which look awesome. The MOBO they suggested is the "GIGABYTE X570 GAMING X". It looks really good but a decent number of reviews on Newegg.ca say it's dead on arrival or killed their CPU (if that even makes sense).
Is this a good Mobo? I'd be willing to spend a bit more to get a good one, both reliable and good performing.

I'd like you opinions. Is this Gigabyte one good or is there perhaps a better one for a bit more?

Thank you.
X570 Taichi
 
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I agree, skimping on the MB on a high end build is definitely a mistake.
As far as the price goes the difference in the US is only about $100, so I have no idea why it costs so much more in Canada.
ASUS ROG Strix X570-E Gaming
https://www.newegg.com/asus-rog-strix-x570-e-gaming/p/N82E16813119111

GIGABYTE X570 AORUS ELITE
https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813145160?Description=Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite&cm_re=Gigabyte_X570_Aorus_Elite--13-145-160--Product

But if you read the reviews I linked in my last post, they explain what is different/better about the Asus vs that Gigabyte board.
The Asus board is basically just an all around better quality board according to those reviews.
Generally speaking, and sorry for the late reply, everything costs more here and are incomes tend to be a higher to compensate I guess.
Better quality is what I'm going for... I may just say screw it and shell out the extra capital. Thanks!
 
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Make sure that the board you buy has a decent VRM design. AMD's 3000 CPUs need a lot of power and cheaper board designs (e.g. MSi's mid and low priced boards) run a LOT hotter, as much as 40 degrees C more than other brands under load, which is not good for the components lifespan.
I'll avoid MSi, and thanks because they were on my radar.

How do you tell what a good VRM design is?
 

DMAN999

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How do you tell what a good VRM design is?
Look at this AM4 Motherboard VRM chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818

Generally speaking, and sorry for the late reply, everything costs more here and are incomes tend to be a higher to compensate I guess.
I actually live near the Canadian Border (Do the Peace Bridge or Rainbow Bridge ring any Bells LOL), so I know everything costs more in Canada.
I was just surprised that the price difference between those 2 motherboards was a lot bigger than it is here.

PS
I have been to your fair city on numerous occasions and have spent some time roaming Yonge Street sampling your excellent local beverages when I was younger.
I visited the Hockey Hall of Fame, did the Edge Walk on the CN Tower and even saw a few concerts and hockey games at the Coliseum. :D
 
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How upto a road trip are you?
There is a Micro Center in
Madison Heights , Mi.
https://www.microcenter.com
32800 Concord Drive
Madison Heights, MI 48071
Mon - Sat 10 to 9, Sun 11 to 6
Great prices
They currently have the board Dmann mentioned the asus x570 e for $329.99
And when you buy a cpu at same time they drop the price of the board $30.
They have the 3700x for $329.99
And the 3800x for $379.99
No 3900's listed
But those parts can Only be bought Instore.

Good Luck and Safe Travel if it would pay off.
 
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How upto a road trip are you?
There is a Micro Center in
Madison Heights , Mi.
https://www.microcenter.com
32800 Concord Drive
Madison Heights, MI 48071
Mon - Sat 10 to 9, Sun 11 to 6
Great prices
They currently have the board Dmann mentioned the asus x570 e for $329.99
And when you buy a cpu at same time they drop the price of the board $30.
They have the 3700x for $329.99
And the 3800x for $379.99
No 3900's listed
But those parts can Only be bought Instore.

Good Luck and Safe Travel if it would pay off.
I would maybe be up to it if I were in my old province, but not from where I am now haha.

Microcenter sounds amazing, wish we had them in Canada.
 
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Look at this AM4 Motherboard VRM chart:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/htmlview?sle=true#gid=639584818


I actually live near the Canadian Border (Do the Peace Bridge or Rainbow Bridge ring any Bells LOL), so I know everything costs more in Canada.
I was just surprised that the price difference between those 2 motherboards was a lot bigger than it is here.

PS
I have been to your fair city on numerous occasions and have spent some time roaming Yonge Street sampling your excellent local beverages when I was younger.
I visited the Hockey Hall of Fame, did the Edge Walk on the CN Tower and even saw a few concerts and hockey games at the Coliseum. :D
Thanks! That spreadsheet rocks. Looking at the VRMs between three of the Mobos I'm looking at, the Asus;
"ASUS Prime X570-Pro Ryzen 3 AM4", the "ASUS AMD AM4 ROG Strix X570-F Gaming ATX", and the "ASUS AM4 TUF Gaming X570-Plus (Wi-Fi) ATX"

They all have the same V-Core VRM of "3x SiC639 50A Power Stage". Is that normal? The lowest priced one has the same one as the highest priced one (which is 80 dollars more). Isn't the VRM basically the determinant as to whether the MOBO will be able to handle the Ryzen 9 3950x and the next generation of Ryzen?

They don't... But somehow I'm thinking they're across from Ontario? Yeah the price difference between US and Canadian PC components seems to be pretty extreme often.

I'm glad you like the city. I actually have never even been to Toronto. Honestly, after New York City, I don't think Toronto will come close.
The Edge Walk... Damn, you're a brave one. I'd never be able to do that.
 
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Crosslhs82x2

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When you mentioned the bridge's i took a look to see if a m/c was close.
There was a guy came here from Australia a few months back and he went to m/c and bought parts put in his luggage and flew back. He sounded real happy.
 
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DMAN999

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For some reason I was thinking you from Toronto, but I must have confused this thread with some other thread where I was helping another guy from Canada.
Sorry for the confusion.
And yes the bridges I mentioned cross the Niagara river between Ontario and New York.
And yes the quality of the VRMs determines how well a motherboard can handle a 3950x.
If you look at the chart I linked you can see which boards have the better VRMs.
If they use the same VRMs, then any difference in price will be due to one having more or better features than the others (audio or wifi or better Lan or whatever).
 
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