News TSMC chairman says 'Not being criticized is the biggest enemy of engineers' as company works through union problems at Arizona fab

[Admin]

TSMC has been struggling to adapt its business model to the cultural landscape of the U.S., but things are improving.

TSMC chairman says 'Not being criticized is the biggest enemy of engineers' as company works through union problems at Arizona fab : Read more

 

[evdjj3j]

Treat people right and they won't have a reason to organize.

 

[evdjj3j]

My comment wasn't meant to be anti labor, I was paraphrasing this quote from Yvette Trellu, executive vice president of the Michelin Tire Corporation in 1978.

“The only companies that get unionized are those that deserve it”

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

To quote the great Will Smith, “Don’t start nothing, won’t be nothing”

 

[williamcll]

Ironic that the US somehow has a stronger union prescence than the taiwanese.

 

[Soulxlight]

Ironic that the US somehow has a stronger union prescence than the taiwanese.

Why? I can't think of a reason why Taiwan would have strong unions. Taiwan was pretty authoritarian for a long time. Authoritative governments aren't known for strong union support. They were a military dictatorship for a long time and didn't even have democratic elections till the 90s. So the largely state owned TSMC wouldn't have had a reason for unions.

Honestly this move to build in the US isn't good for TSMC. It is pretty much being forced on them for closer relations and arms deals with the US. Building chips in the US is just a losing deal skill wise and monetarily for them.

 

[Soulxlight]

Treat people right and they won't have a reason to organize.

Honestly if they had another option politically they probably wouldn't bother. Building chips in the US is a losing proposition. Less skilled workers, way higher prices relative to the taiwanese new dollar. Really a headache they're willing to lose money on to keep Washington happy even.

 

[evdjj3j]

Why? I can't think of a reason why Taiwan would have strong unions. Taiwan was pretty authoritarian for a long time. Authoritative governments aren't known for strong union support. They were a military dictatorship for a long time and didn't even have democratic elections till the 90s. So the largely state owned TSMC wouldn't have had a reason for unions.

Honestly this move to build in the US isn't good for TSMC. It is pretty much being forced on them for closer relations and arms deals with the US. Building chips in the US is just a losing deal skill wise and monetarily for them.

Building chips in the US is not a losing deal when you add in all of the military protection they receive. Looks like the US government is going to pump a ton of money into Intel so once they get up to speed, which they will, we wont need TSMC as much as we do now.

I don't guess you know a whole lot about union training. I know pipefitters have to go through a 5 year apprenticeship before they become a journeyman. I'm sure the other construction trades go through a similar amount of training.

If you think installing a 3000 ton chiller and the associated plumbing is low skilled labor then you need to think again.

 

[unitedbamboo]

Building chips in the US is not a losing deal when you add in all of the military protection they receive. Looks like the US government is going to pump a ton of money into Intel so once they get up to speed, which they will, we wont need TSMC as much as we do now.

I don't guess you know a whole lot about union training. I know pipefitters have to go through a 5 year apprenticeship before they become a journeyman. I'm sure the other construction trades go through a similar amount of training.

If you think installing a 3000 ton chiller and the associated plumbing is low skilled labor then you need to think again.

The US is trying to destroy TSMC. Like they destroyed Toshiba and tried to with Huawei.

Statement above alone proves TSMC is wasting money building a US facility. Look at Foxconn in Wisconsin. The multi billion dollar project is now home to a 99cent store 🤣🤣🤣

 

[The Historical Fidelity]

The US is trying to destroy TSMC. Like they destroyed Toshiba and tried to with Huawei.

Statement above alone proves TSMC is wasting money building a US facility. Look at Foxconn in Wisconsin. The multi billion dollar project is now home to a 99cent store 🤣🤣🤣

Where are you getting your facts? Nothing could be further from the truth