News TSMC Founder: Pat Gelsinger Too Old to Make Intel Great Again

[Admin]

Intel's Gelsinger may not have enough time to regain Intel's process technology leadership.

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[-Fran-]

Mr. Pat G. does make good points, and points that are in need to be heard in the bigger audience. Specially the Govt audience.

If Govts want to get their Chips-dependent industry back on track, they have to pony up somehow to compete with TSMC's "free candy". And that's not even going into the Political angle.

I wouldn't like to see Intel owning all the world Fabs either, but at least the points are well made in the wider context of just building chips.

A nasty problem with a non-trivial solution.

And about his age... As long as he doesn't get dementia any time soon, he should be able to lead indirectly from the board, right? Haha.

Regards.

 

[hotaru.hino]

There's plenty of other companies around the world that can make chips. The problem is the amount that have the equipment and know how to make the bleeding edge is basically two. Maybe three if you want to be a little loose.

 

[-Fran-]

There's plenty of other companies around the world that can make chips. The problem is the amount that have the equipment and know how to make the bleeding edge is basically two. Maybe three if you want to be a little loose.

They all depend on ASML. That Company is backed by USA capital and there's no other like it in the world, so any manufacturer that wants "bleeding edge", needs to compete with TSMC and Intel to get there. I'm not sure if Samsung also taps into ASML, but I wouldn't be surprised they do. GloFo does, for sure.

Point is (and I think I get your underlying implication) while many Companies can fab chips if they get the gear, not many of them can't* be on the bleeding edge just because of cost of said equipment and political reasons. I won't delve into the political side, clearly.

https://www.asml.com/en/company/about-asml

Regards.

 

[sivaseemakurthi]

""How do you compete with a 30 to 40% subsidy," Gelsinger asked
I doubt if the subsidies are really that high.

 

[thisisaname]

""How do you compete with a 30 to 40% subsidy," Gelsinger asked
I doubt if the subsidies are really that high.

Hard to say if it is but they have not said that it is not true, but we can safely assume they are getting quite a bit.

 

[derekullo]

Your eyes get worse as you age.

Past 60 years of age most people are no longer capable manipulating the transistors with the high degree of accuracy needed for assembling a cpu.

😛

 

[GenericUser]

Your eyes get worse as you age.

Past 60 years of age most people are no longer capable manipulating the transistors with the high degree of accuracy needed for assembling a cpu.

😛

That's why we have binning

 

[$h0nuff]

When did Tom's, TPU, Anand, etc. become "The Onion" of tech news? Hilarious.

Lisa:

Please get back to working on something other than tabloid-caliber mudslinging.

Mike:

Goodbye.

 

[purpleskying]

Hard to say if it is but they have not said that it is not true, but we can safely assume they are getting quite a bit.

I question the "30 to 40% subsidy" for TSMC (Samsung could be different) as TSMC does not get subsidies from Taiwan's government for building its facilities according to a quote from WSJ. "While Taiwan's government played a crucial role in its founding investment, she said, the company doesn't receive subsidies to build facilities."

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-wo...aiwan-leaving-everyone-vulnerable-11624075400