Tweaking/optimizing my new rig overclocking settings

[Retr092]

Hi there!

I currently have my new rig up and running perfectly, but as this rig is very OC friendly, I might as well do some OC to get the most out of it.

Here is the rig build:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tHfKm8

Base/Standard settings:
(All values are in idle state/from Bios readings)
CPU: Ryzen 1600x @ 3600 MHz / Temp. 32 Celcius / 1.3 volt
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LED 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3200MHz @ Freq. 2133 MHz / 1.2 Volt


Target: To get as high as possible with the OC, at the same time getting as much life out of the components as possible. Meaning I will not OC where values are at a level that I will deterioate my components more than they would with factory standards.

Current working OC (although not a stress tested, but no crashes thus far):

CPU OC: @ 3900 MHz / Temp. 36 Celcius / 1.392 volt (Vcore:-0,030V / SOC:+0,096V)
Memory OC: @ Freq. 2953 MHz / 1.310 Volt

Tests by memory manufacter:
Tested Voltage 1.35V
Tested Speed 3200MHz
Tested Latency 16-18-18-36


Why can't I seem to get to 3200 MHz on my memory on my Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5 Motherboard, latest F3 Version?
I use the exact values from the manufactor tests in my bios, both voltage and latency in both Channel A and B (same values in both).

 

[superninja12]

Wouldn't recommand you to overclock on a BQ, its a poor quality psu.

 

[Retr092]

How come? What would your rather recommend for a PSU? Whats bad about the one I have, thought it was all about delevering the sufficient wattage to the components, and this rig shouldt overcome 400 Watts.

 

[superninja12]

quality over quantity,

the voltage isnt stable for overclocking, because of the poor quality components.

 

[Retr092]

Well I understand, id like to ofcourse get a quality PSU, but would be nice if you could point me in the right direction then. Of what PSUs you think would be suited

 

[Sylvvester]

Read this: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-2547993/psu-tier-list.html

 

[marko55]

Nice rig. You did kinda skimp on that PSU though. They've got a point. The EVGA G2 is awesome, or the G3. A lot of people go with the Seasonic gold rated also to save a few bucks. Its very popular.

As far as your OC, that's perfect right where you are but you could probably push just a little further on your CPU. Even at that voltage you may be able to achieve 3950. 4000 may give you a hard time without a voltage increase, possible upwards of 1.41-1.42. That bump from 3950 to 4000 is so nominal its not worth it though, unless your CPU can pull it off under 1.4v.

You may even want to just set that SOC static to 1.2v. Also set your llc to level 2. I had to manually set SOC to 1.2 to get one 1600X build I did to stabilize completely. It can also help memory stability.

Its not uncommon AT ALL to have memory clocking issues on this platform. This chipset and CPU line is SUPER picky about what RAM it will actually clock up to full speed. Honestly, at 2900+ on your memory you're doing well. You could try bumping voltage to or beyond 1.35v to see if it'll take at 3200, or you might get lucky but upping the SOC voltage to 1.2 alone. Its hard to say.

 

[Retr092]

Thanks! And thank you very much for laying it out for me! Although I have some follow up questions:
I can see that my local store can deliver a EVGA SuperNOVA 750 G2, 750W PSU, I will not need to look on other PSUs choosing this one, meaning there will be no noteworthy better ones?

I have not crashed running this OC, but I indeed have had large problems when restarting. Like half of the times I restart or power on from complete shutdown, I just get black screen and it wont boot. There is a red led on the VGA from the status leds though. Isnt it weird its showing the VGA not working properly, as I have all standard on my GPU. May it be the power cable going to the GPU? What do you recommend me to do to have a perfect working computer at this OC? Since no problems when computer is running or stress tested, it has to be small tweaking left to fix the booting problem?

Also about the SOC, I dont think I can set this to a spesific value on my MOAB? I have the Gigabyte AX370 Gaming K5, and it seems like all voltages needs to be ofset, cant be set static, but I may be mistaken. If so, how do I optimize the voltages on this OC?

Also do you think 3,9 GHz should give me full lifetime on the components?

 

[marko55]

The 750G2 is a fantastic CPU; one of the best out there, and should last very long time.

Startup uses amperage, not wattage, to get things going. Its possible your PSU is causing those issues at startup. While it should be able to provide ample amperage at startup just based on its specs, it could still be causing impact. Bootup time is one of the most tolling times on your PSU.

You should be able to manually set ANY voltage setting on an X370 board; not just offsets. If you change the setting to "override" maybe, then you'll have the box where you can manually set the voltage for that particular setting. That said, I haven't read the manual for your mobo to verify (that's your job ;-)

In regards to longevity of components, its voltage that impacts life more than clock speed. As long as your voltage is under 1.4v on your CPU vcore, you should be ready to upgrade in a few years far before this CPU is even close to ready to call it quits. At that point you can probably sell the CPU on Ebay for a good 50% of what you paid for it still.

 

[Retr092]

Thanks! I just bought that PSU now. Will see how it works out to the booting issues, if not I will need to start to search for errors elsewhere.

Im thinking about 3.9 GHz is a nice place to stay for this CPU, but I have not overclocked that much, what settings would you reccomend me to try out? As of now I have only offsets, and it will be hard to determine what to put in as manually numbers, as Ive only seen ofsets for now.

Nice to know