Question Two PCs at a similar price - i59400f vs Ryzen 3700X?

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Hi I am currently interested in two PCs from the same company.

One is an I5 9400f, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£870) and the other is a Ryzen 3700X, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£880). Otherwise both PCs are the same (stock fans, basic motherboards, same case, etc), however the Ryzen model does not come with Windows 10 preinstalled. Also the Ryzen model will take about two weeks to arrive whereas the I5 model is available next day shipping (amazon prime).

I have had issues with Ryzen before and always favoured intel but would like anyone's honest opinion on whether these PCs are good value and which one would be best to go for. I just wanna play most games decently with high settings (including BF2042)

Only ask as my budget was initially £800 so I am already pushing it with either PC

Many thanks
 

Lutfij

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Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Could you elaborate on what you're getting with that kind of funds? Meaning we're asking for specs to both builds. Please list them like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:

often times people cut corners to make a profit so more often than not, especially during this pandemic looming, people tend to discard their bad inventory onto unsuspecting customers. With my eyes closed and if I didn't know anything about people being shady, I'd pick the Ryzen build over the Intel. If you could get back to us with the specs, perhaps we could fine tune the build and make it your investments worth.

I have had issues with Ryzen before
Could you elaborate on this?
 

logainofhades

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As someone that has used a 3700x, and an RTX 2060, with no problems that I didn't cause myself, I would say the 3700x. The 9400f will be slower in newer, more multithreaded, titles especially, as it doesn't have enough cores/threads for smooth gameplay. GN's review of the 9600k vs Ryzen 3600 showed such issues, leading them to recommend the 3600, as it had more consistent performance. Do you have a link for said PC's?
 
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Welcome to the forums, newcomer!

Could you elaborate on what you're getting with that kind of funds? Meaning we're asking for specs to both builds. Please list them like so:
CPU:
Motherboard:
Ram:
SSD/HDD:
GPU:
PSU:
Chassis:

often times people cut corners to make a profit so more often than not, especially during this pandemic looming, people tend to discard their bad inventory onto unsuspecting customers. With my eyes closed and if I didn't know anything about people being shady, I'd pick the Ryzen build over the Intel. If you could get back to us with the specs, perhaps we could fine tune the build and make it your investments worth.
Hi thanks for the reply, appreciate it.

Intel Model (£879):
CPU: I5 9400f
Motherboard: H310M Motherboard (brand not known)
RAM: Adata Gammix 16gb (8x2) DDR4 2400hz
SSD: 240GB (brand not known)
HDD: 1TB (brank not known)
GPU: RTX 2060 (dual fan but brand unknown) 6GB
PSU: Cooler Master MWE 550W
Chassis: Raider Air Mesh

Ryzen model (£890):
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX
RAM: Adata Gammix 16gb (8x2) DDR4 3000hz
SSD: Adata SU630 240GB
HDD: None
GPU: Asus RTX 2060 Dual EVO 6GB
PSU: EVGA 600w White Rated
Chassis: Raider Air Mesh
 
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As someone that has used a 3700x, and an RTX 2060, with no problems that I didn't cause myself, I would say the 3700x. The 9400f will be slower in newer, more multithreaded, titles especially, as it doesn't have enough cores/threads for smooth gameplay. GN's review of the 9600k vs Ryzen 3600 showed such issues, leading them to recommend the 3600, as it had more consistent performance. Do you have a link for said PC's?
Hi thanks for the reply,

Ryzen PC: https://www.awd-it.co.uk/awd-observatory-lite-mesh-ryzen-3-3300x-quad-core-4.3ghz-rtx-2060-6gb-desktop-pc-for-gaming.html (upgraded to Ryzen 7

Intel PC: https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B07YY1QGB8/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A17AS5ETPMZ9A1&psc=1
 
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I would not buy a 6 thread cpu for gaming in 2021 unless on the tightest of budgets. I would always aim for 6 core 12 threads or higher. On this alone I’d pick a 3600X or 3700X.
Many thanks for the reply. Would you say its worth spending the additional money on the 3700X as opposed to the 3600, I will have a stock cooler and not really be interested in overclocking? My budget is not super tight but as I am a student I do not want to start being silly with my spendings.
 

Phaaze88

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The stock cooler won't hold, and you'll end up wanting to replace it, just like many others have already done so.
They've either complained that the cpu gets too hot, or that the cooler gets too noisy - or both, so add a cpu cooler to your expenses.
And yes, the 9400F's stock cooler is in the same boat.
 

logainofhades

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The stock cooler, for the ryzen chips can be loud, but they are sufficient enough. The 3700x upgrade should have the wraith prism, that those CPU's are sold with. Why that site is showing the stealth as standard, with a 3700x, making you pay more for the cooler I do not understand. The 3600 has the wraith stealth. Intel's stock coolers are quite terrible.
 
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Hi I am currently interested in two PCs from the same company.

One is an I5 9400f, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£870) and the other is a Ryzen 3700X, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£880). Otherwise both PCs are the same (stock fans, basic motherboards, same case, etc), however the Ryzen model does not come with Windows 10 preinstalled. Also the Ryzen model will take about two weeks to arrive whereas the I5 model is available next day shipping (amazon prime).

I have had issues with Ryzen before and always favoured intel but would like anyone's honest opinion on whether these PCs are good value and which one would be best to go for. I just wanna play most games decently with high settings (including BF2042)

Only ask as my budget was initially £800 so I am already pushing it with either PC

Many thanks
I will perhaps change the discussion therefore to: 3600 or spend an additional £90 on the 3700X? I want to be able to run BF2042 at high settings and it will be paired with the RTX 2060
 

Phaaze88

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The stock cooler, for the ryzen chips can be loud, but they are sufficient enough. The 3700x upgrade should have the wraith prism, that those CPU's are sold with. The 3600 has the wraith stealth.
The Prism is in a slightly better position than the Stealth, but can just as easily be handicapped by the surrounding hardware.
In a time where TG side panels are still trending, the downdraft cooler has no choice but to get it's air from the gpu, unless the user goes against the norm and tries a top chassis fan intake, which doesn't work well in too many setups.
Higher end aftermarket gpu models dump more heat in the chassis, which makes the little downdraft cooler's job harder.

You already know this stuff - what am I doing???

Aha yeah completely understand that nobody can give a definitive answer to that!
3600 + new cooler.
3700X + new cooler, at a later date. You will see 80C thermals under load with that cpu; that's where it's turbo boost algorithm ends at.
That's well within the cpu's comfort zone, but the problem is people. "OMG, too hot! My cpu's going to die! 80C is too hot, because it's too hot!", or some over-reacting thing like that, whereas the cpu's like, "I'm totally fine yo."
If you can live with that, then the 3700X - with no new cooler.
 

logainofhades

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I built this rig, not long after Ryzen 3000 launched, and used the stock cooler. He hasn't reported any issues, temps wise. I keep lists of all the builds I do, so I don't have to remember everyone's specs. lol

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor ($289.99 @ Adorama)
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO WIFI ATX AM4 Motherboard ($272.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Intel 660p 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive ($149.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC 3X Video Card ($1589.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair Crystal 570X RGB ATX Mid Tower Case ($312.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS Plus Gold 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($129.00 @ B&H)
Case Fan: Corsair LL120 43.25 CFM 120 mm Fan ($27.99 @ Amazon)
Monitor: AOC CQ27G1 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor
Total: $2856.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2021-09-02 10:49 EDT-0400
 
Hi thanks for the reply, appreciate it.

Intel Model (£879):
CPU: I5 9400f
Motherboard: H310M Motherboard (brand not known)
RAM: Adata Gammix 16gb (8x2) DDR4 2400hz
SSD: 240GB (brand not known)
HDD: 1TB (brank not known)
GPU: RTX 2060 (dual fan but brand unknown) 6GB
PSU: Cooler Master MWE 550W
Chassis: Raider Air Mesh

Ryzen model (£890):
CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX
RAM: Adata Gammix 16gb (8x2) DDR4 3000hz
SSD: Adata SU630 240GB
HDD: None
GPU: Asus RTX 2060 Dual EVO 6GB
PSU: EVGA 600w White Rated
Chassis: Raider Air Mesh
For gaming I would go with the ryzen but then you have to add a hdd and an OS.

So the budget may only allow the I5.
 

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Hi I am currently interested in two PCs from the same company.

One is an I5 9400f, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£870) and the other is a Ryzen 3700X, RTX 2060, 16gb RAM (£880). Otherwise both PCs are the same (stock fans, basic motherboards, same case, etc), however the Ryzen model does not come with Windows 10 preinstalled. Also the Ryzen model will take about two weeks to arrive whereas the I5 model is available next day shipping (amazon prime).

I have had issues with Ryzen before and always favoured intel but would like anyone's honest opinion on whether these PCs are good value and which one would be best to go for. I just wanna play most games decently with high settings (including BF2042)

Only ask as my budget was initially £800 so I am already pushing it with either PC

Many thanks
Ryzen one has superior CPU. Even after that I'd suggest you to go with one with dual channel ram. Also ask your vendor the ram speeds. Anything Below 3200 MHz will heavily bottleneck AMD CPU which isn't the case for Intel. Other considerations are PSU model and GPU model. You need a reputable PSU (obviously). The GPU can be tricky as an inefficiently cooler 2060 super will perform close to a higher binned 1660ti.
 

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