Two SSD's, One Winner, You Decide!!!!! And I'll Buy It!

[Sadtrial]

Two SSD's, One Winner, You Decide!!!!! And I'll Buy It. FIGHT!

Okay. All joking aside. I'm building my second system and I'm looking for an SSD for my boot and 1-2-3 games.

The drive in the blue corner is INTELLLLLL

Intel 730 Series 240 GB SSD!!!!!!

And the drive in the.... uhh... other blue corner is SAMSUNGGGGGG

SAMSUNG 850 EVO-Series 250 GB SSD!!!!!!

I already have a 1tb Seagate 7200rpm that's been sitting empty in my first rig that I've never really used because the other 500gb Seagate 7200rpm in the same first rig was enough.

 

[geofelt]

And... it's a DRAWWWWW.

Both perform the same. You might buy on price.
If there is any edge, I would give it to Samsung and their magician software that can cache writes.
Read up on rapid mode.

 

[Sadtrial]

And... it's a DRAWWWWW.

Both perform the same. You might buy on price.
If there is any edge, I would give it to Samsung and their magician software that can cache writes.
Read up on rapid mode.

What about the 840 pro that you have? or is that an older model? (the two I posted are just my two i picked up from the line up, I'm open to other options as well.)

 

[geofelt]

I need to update my profile.
I just upgraded to Samsung 850PRO 500gb.
Realistically, one will not tell the difference between evo or pro and 850 and 840.
But... I hate to second guess myself so I opted to pay more.

Actually, larger is more of a performance difference. I think a 500gb EVO will outperform a 850PRO at 250gb.
I cloned from 250gb to 500gb and will use the 250gb ad a basic backup recovery drive.
If I ever need to rebuild, it has a up to date windows and a bunch of software that I will not need to redo.

On Samsung magician, full disclosure, I uninstalled it.
It seems that optimization turned off system restore. I prefer the functionality to any difference in performance.

 

[neon neophyte]

should point out, there has been issue with the evos. something like the drives slowing down after about 30 days of use for some people. google it if you like.

should also be mentioned that this is apparently fixed with the newest firmware but im not really sure.

personally i would just avoid it all just in case and go with the intel or the samsung pro (it has no such problems.)

 

[Sadtrial]

should point out, there has been issue with the evos. something like the drives slowing down after about 30 days of use for some people. google it if you like.

should also be mentioned that this is apparently fixed with the newest firmware but im not really sure.

personally i would just avoid it all just in case and go with the intel or the samsung pro (it has no such problems.)

Thanks for pointing that out that could be a pretty big issue! I saw something about it in a post on here while i was waiting for replies but i thought it might be an isolated incident.

 

[Sadtrial]

I need to update my profile.
I just upgraded to Samsung 850PRO 500gb.
Realistically, one will not tell the difference between evo or pro and 850 and 840.
But... I hate to second guess myself so I opted to pay more.

Actually, larger is more of a performance difference. I think a 500gb EVO will outperform a 850PRO at 250gb.
I cloned from 250gb to 500gb and will use the 250gb ad a basic backup recovery drive.
If I ever need to rebuild, it has a up to date windows and a bunch of software that I will not need to redo.

On Samsung magician, full disclosure, I uninstalled it.
It seems that optimization turned off system restore. I prefer the functionality to any difference in performance.

I think buying a 500gb SSd would be a bit overkill for me due to the fact on my last build i never exceeded 400gb on my 500 gb drive. Could someone explain to me the difference between a evo and a pro at the same capacity? I wouldnt buy a 500gb SSD anyways because it's already pushing my amount on my new build here if you wanted to check that out and possibly comment on there.

 

[neon neophyte]

just a point, 400gb on a 500gb drive should be considered "full." ssd performance drops off after 80 percent fill.

 

[Sadtrial]

just a point, 400gb on a 500gb drive should be considered "full." ssd performance drops off after 80 percent fill.

I still had the 1tb though and I had planned on using it, but never had to. This time I am actually going to use the 1tb on the new rig, the SSD will be only holding OS and 1-3 games(the top 3 games that I'd actually need loading times for). everything else will be on the 1tb. That's why I don't want to go for a 500gb SSD. sorry if I didn't express that well enough.

 

[geofelt]

The main difference between the EVO and the pro is endurance.
Any SSD nand chip has a limited number of writes it can do.
In a normal high intensity desktop environment, you can expect a EVO to still be working after 10 years. The PRO will be working after 15. IN a server environment the situation is different.
Regardless, if a ssd ever can't write, the read capability is still ok, so no data is lost.
It is a moot point, both will be long obsolete by then.
If you fill a ssd up to near capacity, say 90% then updates have fewer blocks available and more updates are done. That is why a larger ssd will have better endurance.
Also, a larger ssd will have more nand chips that can be read in parallel.
Sort of an internal raid-0.
Past 240gb, this effect is negligible.

ON the EVO read fix, it was really no big deal, and all new ssd's will have current firmware. If you buy an old used one, Samsung magician will update it for you.

 

[DarthTater]

The main difference between the EVO and the pro is endurance.
Also, a larger ssd will have more nand chips that can be read in parallel.
Sort of an internal raid-0.

This is probably quibbling over details, so forgive me, but the issue isn't necessarily that a larger SSD will have more NAND chips (although that does tend to be true). What needs to happen is that the more controller channels populated, the more parallel operations that can be performed. I know that probably sounds like just what you said, but it depends on how many NAND dies are in a single package and what the capacity of each die is.

Like I said, probably quibbling over details.