Two Subnets on one router.

[go127001]

So I want to have a network on my router lets say its a 192.168.1.x. I have no problem making this the only thing is I want to make a guest network the won't take IP's from the 192.168.1.x network so I want to know if there is a way to create the guest network or a separate network on the same router for a 192.168.0.x. Is there anyone that knows how or has done this? If so what router did you use?

 

[USAFRet]

Many recent routers have a built in 'guest network' function.
Does yours?

 

[go127001]

Many recent routers have a built in 'guest network' function.
Does yours?

It does but I don't want the guest network to take IP's from the 1.x network. We are very short on IP's so adding the 0.x would be ideal if it possible to do without adding another router.

 

[USAFRet]

Many recent routers have a built in 'guest network' function.
Does yours?

It does but I don't want the guest network to take IP's from the 1.x network. We are very short on IP's so adding the 0.x would be ideal if it possible to do without adding another router.

"very short on IP's"
Unless you have 250+ devices, that is not the case.

So, what IS the situation?

 

[go127001]

Many recent routers have a built in 'guest network' function.
Does yours?

It does but I don't want the guest network to take IP's from the 1.x network. We are very short on IP's so adding the 0.x would be ideal if it possible to do without adding another router.

"very short on IP's"
Unless you have 250+ devices, that is not the case.

So, what IS the situation?

Believe it or not we DO actually hit the 250+ mark with all our phones and computers on the network. So when we have people hit the network and take the last I believe 3 IP's we start to run into problems.

 

[Ceotase]

Can you change your router from a Class C network to B or A i.e 10.0.0.*?

 

[USAFRet]

Believe it or not we DO actually hit the 250+ mark with all our phones and computers on the network. So when we have people hit the network and take the last I believe 3 IP's we start to run into problems.

Then you need to look far beyond consumer grade equipment.
"my router" is not a thing, when you are talking about 250+ devices.

 

[USAFRet]

So, I gotta ask...
What 'router' is this that you currently have?

 

[Ceotase]

I agree with USAFRet about the need for a commercial grade router or maybe even a dedicated DHCP Server.

Some consumer grade routers will allow you to use Class A or B sub-nets but only assign 250 addresses with DHCP. So you could use static sub-net addresses beyond your DHCP assignment with a class A or B net.

 

[Rogue Leader]

What model is your router?

Some routers have VLAN capability, where you can set up another DHCP for another IP Scheme. Most home routers do not have this but a small business router like this

https://smile.amazon.com/DLIDSR250N-Systems-DSR-250N-Wireless-Services/dp/B008021NGK/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1467314221&sr=8-1&keywords=d-link+dsr-250n

Can do it easily. I have the same one except without the wireless and have a guest VLAN setup.

 

[maxwellmelon]

if your not using 250 device at once change the DCHP lease time to a shorter value (say 2 hours). that will keep more ip address open.

 

[go127001]

Well I can't shorten the lease time to something that low plus that doesn't really solve my problem because the computers we have here aren't going to leave the building after 2 hours or anytime for that matter. I really just need to know if a router can support segmenting (I think that's what it is) a network. @Rogue Leader I'm using a cheap Linksys router right now. The router that you linked does it support what I need? Sorry to all if this is confusing.

 

[Rogue Leader]

Well I can't shorten the lease time to something that low plus that doesn't really solve my problem because the computers we have here aren't going to leave the building after 2 hours or anytime for that matter. I really just need to know if a router can support segmenting (I think that's what it is) a network. @Rogue Leader I'm using a cheap Linksys router right now. The router that you linked does it support what I need? Sorry to all if this is confusing.

Cheap Linksys routers are not going to do VLAN. I am assuming for your guest access you are looking for just WiFi correct?

You really should just toss that router and buy one like the one I linked. You can use it to create a higher class network thereby alleviating your IP address issues on your main network, and also you can set up a Guest VLAN which will give them internet only and put them on their own IP scheme that you determine.

With 250 possible open connections, a chreap linksys router is not a good choice for both speed and safety for a business.

 

[go127001]

Well I can't shorten the lease time to something that low plus that doesn't really solve my problem because the computers we have here aren't going to leave the building after 2 hours or anytime for that matter. I really just need to know if a router can support segmenting (I think that's what it is) a network. @Rogue Leader I'm using a cheap Linksys router right now. The router that you linked does it support what I need? Sorry to all if this is confusing.

Cheap Linksys routers are not going to do VLAN. I am assuming for your guest access you are looking for just WiFi correct?

You really should just toss that router and buy one like the one I linked. You can use it to create a higher class network thereby alleviating your IP address issues on your main network, and also you can set up a Guest VLAN which will give them internet only and put them on their own IP scheme that you determine.

With 250 possible open connections, a chreap linksys router is not a good choice for both speed and safety for a business.

I'll give it a shot and tell you what I come up with. Have to get approval from the big man first woohoo.

 

[Ceotase]

If you're inclined to stay with linksys, this unit will allow you to use a guest network on a separate sub-net.

http://www.linksys.com/us/p/P-WRT1900ACS/